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I have a 04 and last year I didnot plug it in the temp overnight was 30*. My truck would crank all day till we ran the battery down, but no start. I pluged it in for about an hour and it fired right up. this has happen a few time at varying temps all below 50* and unless I plug it in it will not start. Not only is this embarrising, but it also p#$#% me off. I am going to try a differant oil 15W40+50 john deere and see if it will help.
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I have a 04 and last year I didnot plug it in the temp overnight was 30*. My truck would crank all day till we ran the battery down, but no start. I pluged it in for about an hour and it fired right up. this has happen a few time at varying temps all below 50* and unless I plug it in it will not start. Not only is this embarrising, but it also p#$#% me off. I am going to try a differant oil 15W40+50 john deere and see if it will help.
What oil are you running? I run Valvoline Premium Blue 15W40 and never have cold start issues? I would check your fuse for your grid heater and the check to see if you have power to your grid heater. just my 0.02s

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I am running 15W40 rottella I check the fuse and go from there to the battery connection and heater connection
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Around 30F type of oil does`nt matter at all. It`s not close to cold enought to do a difference. Trust me i live way up in Canada and you can feel a difference between syntec and mineral oil around 15F on cold start.If it does`nt get any lower than that frequently where you live at no need for syntec oil. Also your truck should easyly start without being plugged as low as 0 F if your batteries are good. There`s nothing to plug my truck at the shop and it often get down to -22F and it starts like a gaser after sitting for 14 hours or more.

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Well here we go, worked on the truck all day trying to get the heaters to work in the intake, hoping this would solve the issue. Tried starting it at 40* this morning, turned on the heater with switch in the cab watch the volts drop on the batteries. Still nothing now I will plug it in for the next hour and try again. As long as this truck is plugged n it will start. I know I should not have to do this. Suggestion
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Is it possible the block heater is bad? I don't know if I am way off here, just trying to help out.

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Block heater is doing something right because it will start when it is plugged in. It is when I don't plug it in and the temp is below 60 over night it will not start. The intake heater is now working manually with a switch in the cab. I tried it 2 days ago and all it managed to do was run the battery down. I live in cheyenne Wy the temperature is not getting any better.
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that means your grid heater is working well. It has to be something else but I`m lost. Does`nt make any sense if the truck is plug or not at 40F, it should even start without the grid heater working at this temperature It means your problem comes from something else than your block heater or grid heater. Don`t know if these truck have a cold start switch or other electronic sensor for cold start

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here's a wacky idea, im curious about your IAT sensor, I've heard tell of ECM's doing strange things if the intake air temp sensor is dammaged or malfunctioning, if the ecm is getting bad signals from the sensor it will try to compensate for it.... and make the truck run like a pile of crap

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here's a wacky idea, im curious about your IAT sensor, I've heard tell of ECM's doing strange things if the intake air temp sensor is dammaged or malfunctioning, if the ecm is getting bad signals from the sensor it will try to compensate for it.... and make the truck run like a pile of crap

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