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cummins L10, no oil pressure

we have a case 9250 tractor that has a cummins L10 engine in it. we were doing field work with it today when it lost oil pressure while running at idle speed. we shut it down and towed it to our shop. it probably ran for no more than a minute or two with no oil pressure. i dropped the oil pan and found that the oil pick-up tube had fallen down into the pan. i'm going to reinstall the pick-up tube ( with lock-tite this time ) and oil pan next week but was just wondering if there is anything else i should check out or do before i start the engine again. i was thinking of disconnecting the fuel shut-off valve and just cranking it over a few times before actually starting it.

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You really need to presurize the oil system through the oil pressure sender hole before you start it.

Cranking it w/o it running is worse than just starting it because the pump will take forever to get pumping and your just spinning it over dry. Be better to just start it vs crank it.
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i know some folks i might be able to borrow when of those pre-luber systems from so i might try and get a hold of them. thanks for the advice.

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Take an old bug sprayer. Clean it out. Adapt the hose to the hole where the oil pressure sender was. Put some oil in the sprayer. Connect hose to hole and pump sprayer to pressurise it.

You dont need 50 psi. Just a few psi will fill the oil galleys up.
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we have a case 9250 tractor that has a cummins L10 engine in it. we were doing field work with it today when it lost oil pressure while running at idle speed. we shut it down and towed it to our shop. it probably ran for no more than a minute or two with no oil pressure. i dropped the oil pan and found that the oil pick-up tube had fallen down into the pan. i'm going to reinstall the pick-up tube ( with lock-tite this time ) and oil pan next week but was just wondering if there is anything else i should check out or do before i start the engine again. i was thinking of disconnecting the fuel shut-off valve and just cranking it over a few times before actually starting it.
I'd most certainly check (personally I'd replace them regardless) the rod and main bearings. All of em. Big dif between 5 to 10 seconds (the norm) and a couple minutes running on oil foam...
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Bearings in the turbo might be questionable, too.

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on a Cummins --check the Oil pressure shaft--located iin front on the drivers side--small square box--remove & check the shaft-- about the size of a dime in dia--wipe it Off Good & check it for scratches?--if? No scrathes?--if? scrathes! re-place it--re-install it --re-install your pick up tube & of course fill it w/ new OIL--& start it UP--I have seen a lot of owners park their rigs on account of this Oil pressure Issue!--simple FIX!--as Diesel Oil gets pretty Dirty--& most DO plug up the in the shaft area--& most Diesel mechanics dono this! or Don*t inform cummins owners--hopeing for a Big $$ re-pair--its a simple 30 minute JOB!--a 12 yr old could Do It if He knew how?--I hope this Helps--Ole JIM--
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well here's what i ended up doing. the engine only had about 400 hours on it after i had done an in-frame rebuild about a year and a half prior. during the rebuild i had already replaced the turbo and the oil pressure regulator valve ( old one had several scratches on it and the turbo was all rusted out ). it had an issue for awhile that the tractor shook a lot when you shut it down. i figured this was because when the fuel tank was full it would feed back on the fuel return lines and keep the engine sputtering for awhile. there was a valve on the engine i replaced that stopped that but i figure that was part of the cause of the pick-up tube coming loose. so i reinstalled the pick-up tube with lock-tite on the bolt, refilled the oil and replaced the oil filter. we have a oil drum we can pump out of so i adapted the hose coming off into the oil pressure plug and pumped about a gallon into the system. i started the engine and oil pressure picked up immediately and ran about what it always does, about 40 at idle cold and 30 at idle hot. i always though it was a little on the low side but that's what its always been and it is within spec according to the manual we have. i would have liked to go through the bearings but being memorial weekend there was no one open to get new ones anyway and we needed use the tractor to work fields so i figure i'll do an engine oil analysis next oil change and see how much wear metals show up in it. probably check it a little earlier than i normally would. i ran it out in the field for a few hours that night and had no problems at all. thank you all for your advise.

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