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Interesting.

Not much on the entire build/conversion process, but it sure sounds like a dependable rig.

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Interesting.

Not much on the entire build/conversion process, but it sure sounds like a dependable rig.

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Drivetrain: BF4L 913/ZF S5-42/NP 205. Fuel system and other items are proptietary. Its extremely economical to operate.
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Do you have any fuel economy numbers? Considering a gasser 400 in a 78 would get about 10mpg. Possibly some more specs on the engine itself, besides being air cooled. Like hp/tq figures, years of production, size, etc

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Do you have any fuel economy numbers? Considering a gasser 400 in a 78 would get about 10mpg. Possibly some more specs on the engine itself, besides being air cooled. Like hp/tq figures, years of production, size, etc
Deutz manufactured the engine as a "special BF4L 913" for GMC a little over three decades ago. I "discover" the engine sitting in Deutz's Richmond, IN warehouse. It was inferred to me the engine was destined for a UPS delivery van that GM was going to produce. However, the union(s) were protesting the use of a German manufactured engine and the project was discontinued. Apparently they forgot GMC was making Deutz's BF6L 913 available in their medium duty trucks about that time. Deutz was most generous in making the engine available to me.

I perfer not to disclose engine output data as it differs from that published by Deutz. The engine, along with the transmission and transfer case, was tested on our dynamometer for base line data and torsional vibration before being installed in the truck. Needless to say, the truck manages to keep up with most traffic.

I consider the truck's fuel economy to be exceptional, although one always wishes it was greater. I hesitate to offer data as we measure test fuel burn in "miles per pound" (some have suggested "miles per barrel") and that's confusing to most. The fuel we use has a wide API gravity (density) variation and the BTU's per pound can differ further complicating things. I offer the follwing link as a glimpse to what the truck can obtain under favorable conditions. Kindly use it and scroll down to the tenth "Update."

http://www.iowahawk.typepad.com/iowa...-cruisein.html

As the fuel temperature in the tank had stabalized I think the fuel burn given is accurate.

Thanks for the inquiry and thank you for the "Thank You."
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Do you have any fuel economy numbers? Considering a gasser 400 in a 78 would get about 10mpg. Possibly some more specs on the engine itself, besides being air cooled. Like hp/tq figures, years of production, size, etc
In reviewing my reply to your inquiry I realize I might have been short with respect to the truck engine's output. As configured it has a maximum BMEP of 120 psi when tested to DIN 70020 which is modest for 4.1 liters of displacement. With charge air cooling and other changes a BF4L 913 has reached a BMEP of 225 psi and CHT stayed within limits. However, our goal has been maximum fuel economy and longevity with a wide range of raw well oils as fuel. Currently the truck is undergoing a 600,000 mile inspection.
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very cool conversion. back around 87' or so, i came across a 82 model gmc one ton someone left ideling outside one of the local auto parts stores. there was no mistakening is was a duetz. i waited around and asked him about it, claimed he took it out of a gm medium. i have only seen 2 in the medium line, what i learned they were an excellent engine.
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Nice. Hope you never need parts for it. My azz is still sore from the cracked head on my Skidsteer. Deutz parts are INSANE. Simple engine to work on but definitely need the manual.

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very cool conversion. back around 87' or so, i came across a 82 model gmc one ton someone left ideling outside one of the local auto parts stores. there was no mistakening is was a duetz. i waited around and asked him about it, claimed he took it out of a gm medium. i have only seen 2 in the medium line, what i learned they were an excellent engine.
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For more information on Deutz powered trucks, visit Roland Sparling's excellent web site:

http://www.magirusdeutz.co.uk/

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http://www.hcvc.com.au/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1266078916/0
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