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diesel_ram_man
06-03-2006, 04:37 PM
what are some good brands for intercoolers for a sled pulling truck, brands, types etc. thanks

bmoeller
06-04-2006, 02:51 AM
Check oy Haisley Machine ( www.haisleymachine.com ) and City Diesel ( www.citydiesel.net ), EEP ( www.enterpriseengine.com ).

May be others, but these came to mind.

Forrest Nearing
06-04-2006, 11:37 AM
Ozarka... lots of it

willy91
06-11-2006, 08:50 PM
I'm running a Haisleys on my truck and it's holding just fine.

Jff24Gordn
06-11-2006, 11:40 PM
Ive got a Haisley and like it.

<-T M T T->
07-07-2006, 11:04 PM
DRM did you get anything yet?? Mine should be here in 2 weeks (Being Fabbed now)

BIGRPOWR
07-28-2006, 12:54 AM
spearco's got the best intercoolers for any cummins 94 or newer! check them out. best technology to date!

Todd T
07-28-2006, 04:36 PM
Now Forrest, water aint gonna keep you from popping the seams out of it from too much boost. LOL

PDR sells the upgraded IC's too. I'm sure two of the three Bmoeller listed along with PDR all use the same part just each has their own price schemata.

Bigrpowr Are the Spearco's a stock replacement or can they handle the 100PSI shots like the pullers use?

97crewcab
07-28-2006, 05:41 PM
Who carries the spearco intercoolers?
Does anyone here have one on a 94-02 dodge?
How about cost?

LIPD
07-28-2006, 06:12 PM
we do

<-T M T T->
07-31-2006, 01:45 AM
MassDiesel just got my CoolTwist 500 PSI unit in the truck.

http://www.citydiesel.net/images/2ndGenCoolerlrg.jpg

The page on the Twist (http://www.citydiesel.net/cooltwist-intercooler-p-32.html)

I will know how it works when I put the EDM's back in her this week.

Pat@BD
08-01-2006, 09:25 PM
what are some good brands for intercoolers for a sled pulling truck, brands, types etc. thanks


We have our extrude tubing intercooler for your truck. On our 04.5 at 70psi. We had inlet temps of 540 the outlet temp was 134 and there was less than 1psi lost from inlet to outlet.

Extrude tubing is much more efficient than standard tube and fin construction.:poke:

<-T M T T->
08-03-2006, 05:21 AM
Pat I never knew there was such a thing. Sweet. Whats it look like I cannot picture itfor the life of me.

LIPD
08-03-2006, 12:51 PM
Ours is also made with extrude tubing

mcdowra
08-03-2006, 06:39 PM
Not trying to start a war here but, I feel the following statement requires a bit more detail.
Extrude tubing is much more efficient than standard tube and fin construction.

Yes in some ways Extrude tubing is more efficient than tube and fin intercoolers/aftercoolers. They are better at giving you a decent amount of cooling surface with very little pressure drop. It is easier and most of the time cheaper (not a bad thing) to develop a Extrude tubing core that can withstand high pressures without leaks.

However it is possible with a regular tube and fin intercooler to develop a core with more cooling surface area. Yes you will pay for the surface area with an increased pressure drop through the core. For instance our 3rd Gen aftercooler can flow over 5500cfm at 25psi , with 1.0 psi total pressure drop. .62 through the core, and .37 from the tanks.

Then there are improvements over the tube and fin design, that change the game all over again. For instance the louvered fin type that is used in our intercoolers. What this does is help compensate for the pressure drop by allowing you to fit much more surface area in the same size physical core, allowing for less pressure drop per cooling capacity.

You don't see these other fin types advertised or mentioned very often because most of them are under an intellectual copywrite and the companys that hold the copywrites could not care less about the automotive industry. Choosing instead to focus on Industrial and Factory applications.

Disclaimer: I am an employee of City Diesel, and the above are not necessarily infallible facts, just what we have noticed during our own experience

Picture of Extrude Tube from BD's website

http://www.bd-power.com/ram/images/intercooler_closeup2.jpg

Pat@BD
08-03-2006, 09:10 PM
True you can create more cooling surface area, but the drawback is in the expansion of the tubing. When the tubing heats and expands, the fin can lose contact with the outer walls and thus had no where to dissapate the heat to. With ours we are using 41 tubes so there is lots of cooling surface there.

On our truck at 70psi we had inlet temps of 534deg. The outlet temp was 132 with less than 1psi drop. We gained 45hp over the stock intercooler.:popcorn:

wdimig
08-04-2006, 03:18 PM
hellmann performance, owner joe hellmann makes a very nice intercooler for the commrail trucks.
http://www.hellmannperformance.com/
he hand welds each intercooler, they look really good, wish that he made one for the 2nd gen trucks, check out his site, he offer lots of aluminum products, and is a professional welder, his work is top notch.

wes

mcdowra
08-04-2006, 03:58 PM
True you can create more cooling surface area, but the drawback is in the expansion of the tubing. When the tubing heats and expands, the fin can lose contact with the outer walls and thus had no where to dissapate the heat to. With ours we are using 41 tubes so there is lots of cooling surface there.

On our truck at 70psi we had inlet temps of 534deg. The outlet temp was 132 with less than 1psi drop. We gained 45hp over the stock intercooler.:popcorn:


I definitely agree that extrude tubing is generally more acceptable for use in a high performance core, no arguement there. Thats why we use extruded Tubes, on our high performance cores, and use a heavy duty top plate, with expansion joints, to releave stress and prevent plate separation from the header plate.

I was just attempting to show that there is always tradeoffs, especially when dealing with airflow.

Diesel Nut
09-24-2006, 06:28 PM
My plan is for either a Spearco or BD one for mine.

bbunting
09-24-2006, 08:11 PM
My plan is for either a Spearco or BD one for mine.

Good choices all around.

We just tested the Spearco 6.0 Ford CAC which is smaller than the Cummins unit.

The average temperature drop was 381 degrees. The peak drop was 395 degrees. At 42.40 peak boost, we measured 42.20 boost on the outlet. Max EGT on the load dyno was 1377. All of the readings are from a SuperFlow eddy brake dyno.

The Spearco units for Dodge Cummins are 1200 shipped. Spearco Dodge (https://shop.blackwidowdiesel.com/displayProductDocument.hg?productId=144&categoryId=18)

https://shop.blackwidowdiesel.com/images/1152830114992277323215.jpg