Been a while since I've Posted.(Been really busy with work/family)

Miss the board. How has everyone been? Whats up with KillerQuads Megacab??

Anyway- Let me get to the point.

I've got about $10,000 to spend on my truck. This is what I'm thinking, Can I do it with my budget?

In This Order:

1:Suncoast Tranny- Full Built w/Convertor & DD Tranny Pan
2: Mag/Hytec F/R Diff Covers
3:FASS
4:CFM Plus Carbon Fiber Intake Manifold
5:BD or Banks Intercooler
6:Put a damn gauge pod up (Pillar-mount,3 pods)
7:ATS 3 piece Manifold (Pre-tapped so I can finally mount my Pyro pre-turbo)
8:Twins, yeah baby, Twins. Probably BD
9:6" Single Dog Ear Stack Passenger side
10:TST Powermax CR
11:100 HP Injectors
12:Exhaust Brake
13:New Tires
14:Parachute
15:Life Insurance Policy

Welcome back. I think you can get through 7 done and 1/2 of 8 with your budget. Get some bargains here and there and some help from friends and you can probably get all of 8 done.

Gonna Try.. Just bought the CFM Intake tonight so I can scratch that off the list.


I might go with a single instead of Twins. But damn, I'm sick of all these Ford guys talkin smack and I just want to blow their doors off. They never learn, I smoked an 06' PowerJoke today and now he wants to race again, WTF??

forget #s 4 and 5 and invest in the twins. :D

No Intercooler Upgrade? Why?
And I just bought the CFM Intake.

Addition-
7.5: Headstuds

you will see little to no difference with either of those upgrades. They would be last on the list if I were looking to build HP.

I have neither one of those mods to date and I have no EGT or power issues. If and when the factory innercooler blows, I will most likely change out for something better. Till then there have been plenty of trucks make 7-800 blowing thru stockers.

you can make that thing run GOOD for 10000
i would do and in this order
trans (suncoast)
guages
tst or bully dog
GDP fuel system (forget the fass)
studs
compounds(maximumized performance)
than some 90hp sticks from ddp

check out piers twin turbos there are 3 options there, thats what I was looking at, although now that i think about it they might not have 04-up turbo kits, nvm scratch that, go w/ bd, besides i didnt think that carbon fiber manifold was really CF, I think it is just metal w/ CF look powdercoat. I think don't call me on it though.

Piers has 04.5 and up twin kits and they do a very nice job of suppporting high HP. :D

Both Kendrick and Relentless diesel make a pretty good twins set up I believe. I think with the stocker up top you're lookin to support 600ish HP but it brings the price tag on twins down to about $3000. I don't think you need to run a bigger top turbo unless you're looking to make really big power 700hp range.

lmills what turbos are you running again?

Sean

alldiesels-Already have the BDTD w/Outlook, looking to stack it with a TST or Smarty in the.. distant future (Last on list)


HighTQCummins-The CFM is a Composite Intake, not metal. I don't really need it right now, Just got it to get it out of the way cause if I go with twins I'm gonna try to push as much air as possible through it, plus it looks so fu**ing cool ;) .
I like the BD Twins too, But I am open to suggestions.


Mills- I will probably keep the stock i-cooler for a while, until I got an extra $1200 laying around.



I should have been more specific- My goal is around 700 HP with Daily drive-ability a must. Keep in mind I Tow a Bobcat T-250 2-3 days a week so I need Reliability as well. I hate Turbo-lag but love Boost, that's why I want Sequential Twins. I have a brand new truck and everything I'm doing is just going to Void my Warranty, I don't want to blow Up my Engine!!
You Guys Obviously know a lot more about Cummin's Performance than I do, That's why I appreciate everyone helping me out.

sequential twins, what other type would you get its a straight 6? 700HP and reliable arnt very good terms to use together, sure some do it, but many others have alot of breakdowns. Make sure you have all the supporting mods to make it as safe as possible. I agree with lmills those intakes wont help you out any... maybe even hurt your HP form things ive heard. Im hoping to be about 650 with some sticks and stacked boxes. Right now id say i have 550 or so to the rear and tow up to 20K with my twin setup ad it works great...hopefully i cant report how it does at 650 in the next month or two.

675 -700 daily and towing is not a problem! I do both. In fact there are some pics floating around the net of my play truck towing someone elses truck to a dyno event. LOL

My truck daily drives at 675 reliably. How long???? Well, I guess we shall find out. Right now it has 54,000 miles and has been modded since 99 miles and twinned since it had 12,000 miles. I think the key element is to match everything together so it works together! That is one of the main reasons why I got away from stacking tuners and modules. I run one pressure box (Sp Diesel) in addition to my Smarty. Other than that it is all air flow and fuel.

As for the twins, I run an HX40/HT3b on mine and EGT's are not an issue. In fact towing up grades with 11K behind me I might touch 1150* at 75 MPH with plenty of pedal left.

If money is an issue I would look into the twins that Idaho CTD builds, or the ones built by Relentless or Kendricks. That will save you some coin.

Yeah, I've heard some guys with 24v's running the same twin set up as lmills say that is was a little laggy, but they were pushing about 650tops, I think either a Hybrid and Ht3b, or a stocker and Ht3b would be a good choice. The B2 makes a nice bottom as well.
Sean

Maybe I'm shootin a little high. 600HP would be fine.


Money, $10,000 is all I want to spend but if it takes a little more, Ohh well. I would rather do it right the first time.

Do you know what kind of times you want to run, or are you more concerned with dyno numbers?

If you do not mind stacking boxes. 600 can be done on stock inkectors if you have enough air to feed it.

So, you could do:

tranny
twins
downloader of choice (Smarty, BullyDog or PPE)
TST
fuel system upgrade

That will either get you to, or knocking on 600's door

Or:

tranny
twins
downloader or TST
injectors
fuel system upgrade

There are plenty of other ways to do it also. You might also start collecting some of the stuff in the classifieds. Used TST's and downloaders sell cheap.

add some F1 Flux injectors to the mix....:evil that is some serious power :D

other than that, you're on the right track. tranny first, smarty, twins, injectors, and fuel system. you would be powerful to say the least LOL especially stacked with the bully dog.

Piers makes great twins, and the bd setup is great. those would be my two choices. as for tranny...DTT or Suncoast.

Dom

With big sticks or stacked boxes, I think you'll be getting close to maxing that CP3. Can a stock CP3 even make 700hp. I'd think it could do 600 ok though. It would definitely be happier with a modded CP3 around 600hp thats for sure.
Sean

650 is about the limit that I have seen and that was on 2 different trucks. Most top out around 600 HP. Piers did 68? at one time on a stocker, but he said the injectors were so big and smoky that it did not make for a good daily driver. LOL He has the highest to my knowledge on a stocker without using drugs!

You might wanna try Dave Goerend at Goerend Bros transmissions. He's alittle lower in price than most of the other guys but his trannies just plain hold. Ive heard absolutely nothing but praise for Dave and his warranty is awesome.

As for your list, i would start with the tranny, twins, i believe you already said you have a bullydog so get the TST and stack em, GDP 392 comp fuel system with 2 micron filter, and a set of Don M's F2 injectors.

GDP 392 comp fuel system with 2 micron

Is this a better system than the FASS 150?

yes, the GDP kit is very nice, not very loude, easy instal, adjustable and it pumps the fuel. I think it is cheeper than the fass to :}
robert

how well can modded ones run w/ duals, are duals alot noiseyer?

dual what? if you mean fuel pumps you don't need them unless your are pushing a LOT of fuel, or do you mean duall cp3's? i don't think duall cp3's would be noticable sound wise unless maybe a squeeky belt
robert

Sounds to me like you are doing everything in the right steps. sounds like you are making a pretty bullet proof tranny and that’s what I would do first, but anyway let me know how that carbon fiber intake helps out your throttle response. they say it is suppose to bed awesome. good luck with your truck and don't embarrass those blue oval and bowtie boys out there.

Is this a better system than the FASS 150?

I believe that it is which is why ill be going with it in the not so distant future. The Fass system is good but its loud. I know of at least two right off the top of my head that have switched from the Fass system to the GDP, one being Tomeygun who is running over 600hp on his 03.

Killerquads truck just got outta the Dealership Service Department for the past month due to Electrical issues .... Lights not working and so on... But that is that ... :damnit

This is a good thread to read for me cause i am looking at TWINS some time as well... but not anything soon... You have $10K to spend ... i have 1/10th of that to spend right now.... :damnit ... Smarty and Gauges is what im trying to work up too but i have to sell the Bully Dog before i can truely afford that stuff....

NE WAY...

Good luck and im gonna keep my eye on YOU..... :popcorn: :evil:

There goes the Stock Convertor!! Just Toasted the Converter, Talked to Bryan at Dominator and he's shipping me a Suncoast Unit w/ a new Suncoast Valve Body. Wanted to replace the whole Tranny w/ a Suncoast but I'm a little short on Cash until my big check comes in.

How much HP/TQ can a stock Tranny handle with just a Suncoast Convertor/ Valvebody?? How long is the stock Input Shaft going to last?

How many times can I say Convertor in a Paragraph... Jeeez

you can run about 400-450hp maybe a little more, with the convertor and VB

No Offense, But how do you know this?? Your only 14yrs old.
You can't even drive legally...

I know your on this site an awful lot (You have like 2,200 post), but where exactly did you get those numbers? Did you make them up in your head?
You tell me 400-450 hp and a Mechanic that has been working on Diesels for 20+ yrs tells me 600 +/-


Man, When I was 14 I was busy Riding Dirtbikes, Fishing, and playing Baseball with my friends.

I have seen numerous truck make 550-600 Hp with just converter and valve body installs. Do I recommend it, not really. Especially since that kind of power is hard on a stock input shaft. One of the main reason I do not recommend it very often is because I do not know what the owner has done to the tranny. If the clutch's have been smoked previously, all you do is waste your time doing a converter and valvebody

That's what I'm worried about. I don't know what damage I've done until I open it up.

I can always buy a complete Suncoast Tranny before I put the Twins on and keep the Converter and sell the V-body. Hell, They might sell me a complete Tranny minus the Valve body. That's probably what I'll do.

I just need to get my Truck up and running ASAP. Hopefully I didn't damage anything but the Converter. Its weird because my Tranny Temp has never gone over 150 degrees. I have my Outlook set to De-Fuel at 180.


What do you think I'll find when I open it up?

most likely if you only slipped it this one time and left off when you felt it, you are probably OK.

Thanks Buddy, I hope your right..

I can still drive the truck, but It will start to slip, disengage and over-rev. I think I'll park it in my driveway until Install the new convertor, v-body, Mag-Hytec DD Pan and Replace the fluid.

BTW- I pulled the Dipstick and smelled the Fluid, It smelled like something was toasted.

Wow!!!! It slips and over revs while driving normal???? If so, that ain't good at all. :(

Should I take the Bully-Dog out and bring it to Dodge??

I mean, whats the worse thing that could happen, my warranty will be voided?? I think thats all going to be thrown out the freakin window anyway when I Install the Twins.


I drove the truck all day (City driving btw). It was fine this morning and started slipping towards the end of the day, but only when I gassed it. I figured it would be fine until I got home and that its only the Converter.
Parked the truck for a bit, started it and drove about 1/2 mile and it came out of gear, turned around and limped home.

That does not sound good at all. :( Ehhh, no comment on taking it to the dealer. :D

This is what I'm gonna do.

Tow it to Dodge and tell em' this:
I tow a 8,000 lb trailer everyday, I've put 14,000 hard miles on it in 4 months, I installed an Outlook Monitor w/EGT probe like my mechanic told me to do so I could watch my temps and keep them in check. My Tranny temp has never gone over 150 degrees (I have my Outlook set to d-fuel at 180).


This is a 5-star Dealer so they don't need an approval from Dodge to do any major work. My sister is also good friends with the Manager of the Dealership
so that might get me some Brownie Points.


If all else fails:
Here's a Christmas card with $200 in it. Call me when its done.

No Offense, But how do you know this?? Your only 14yrs old.
You can't even drive legally...

I know your on this site an awful lot (You have like 2,200 post), but where exactly did you get those numbers? Did you make them up in your head?
You tell me 400-450 hp and a Mechanic that has been working on Diesels for 20+ yrs tells me 600 +/-


Man, When I was 14 I was busy Riding Dirtbikes, Fishing, and playing Baseball with my friends.
Lol i was getting drunk and partying! My stock tranny made 9000 miles with the crazy larry...

my buddy toasted his trans pretty quick with the BD converter and valve body with only 440hp on the dyno. But he was launching it pretty hard and had a lot of fuel and I think NOS, he wouldn't say at that point, so he may have been pushing more HP. I know on the older trucks 400hp is getting close to what a stock tranny wants to take even with a TC/VB but weak Input shafts have some influence there, 48re has hardened shafts I believe.

As far as the Dealership goes. The problem with the Bullydog is that it erases key cycles. Even if you take it off or say that you just ran the monitor they will know you were running it. You may be able to get away with saying it threw a code and you had it cleared to see if it came up again and when "Autozone" or whoever cleared it, it erased the key cycles.
Good luck man.

Yeah when I was 14 I was racing dirtbikes too, I didn't care about anything else, especially the internet. But if this is what these kids are into, at least they're getting out there and learning about it.
Sean

yeah, I'm not trying to be an A-hole. I understand that kids are into the net more now than ever, but please, The kid has over 2,000 post in 8+ months. WTF??

I wasn't partying yet, not till I was about 16..:cheers :HappyMugs :barf:

Once he discovers beer and the Big V, We won't here from him again till he's about 22. :Thumbup:

yeah, I'm not trying to be an A-hole. I understand that kids are into the net more now than ever, but please, The kid has over 2,000 post in 8+ months. WTF??

You really shouldn't come down on someone that you have never met. The reason I say that is because if you met Charley like I and many others had the pleasure of at Smokin this fall, you would not make such statements. I have many times too assumed that someone with not many years does not have much information or real world knowledge. In this case, well, it's just not true. Charley knows more without owning a diesel yet than a lot of people who do own one combined. As for his post count, that is his business. We all pay the same amount to enjoy this site $0. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and are free to post them as long as they meet the site guidelines.

I hope you get your truck lined out and have a nice day. :Thumbup:

Sorry Charley.
Just been havin a rough couple of days.
You probably know more about Diesels than I do anyway..
If you ever come to SWFL, let me know.. I'll let you take my Truck for a spin.

Sorry Charley.
Hahaha, wondering when that would slip in somewhere.

You really shouldn't come down on someone that you have never met. The reason I say that is because if you met Charley like I and many others had the pleasure of at Smokin this fall, you would not make such statements. I have many times too assumed that someone with not many years does not have much information or real world knowledge. In this case, well, it's just not true. Charley knows more without owning a diesel yet than a lot of people who do own one combined. As for his post count, that is his business. We all pay the same amount to enjoy this site $0. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and are free to post them as long as they meet the site guidelines.

I hope you get your truck lined out and have a nice day. :Thumbup:

Im only 18 and people have always treated me like crap on the forums, someone can be 14 or 15 and know twice as much as you, age doesnt have a limit on learning.

exactly

It's amazing what a little cash will do.
Dodge Dealer is Replacing Tranny under warranty. He said if it happens again, That's my ***...

Also, I told him that I bought new parts so I wouldn't have to Deal with this again. So his Tech is Installing my new Suncoast Converter and Valve-body... free ;)

Keep in mind- This is not the dealer I bought my truck from. They are out in the country, You can buy a brand new truck from them with a Triple Dog + Outlook, Exhaust, and Intake installed...

It's amazing what a little cash will do.
Dodge Dealer is Replacing Tranny under warranty. He said if it happens again, That's my ***...

Also, I told him that I bought new parts so I wouldn't have to Deal with this again. So his Tech is Installing my new Suncoast Converter and Valve-body... free ;)

Keep in mind- This is not the dealer I bought my truck from. They are out in the country, You can buy a brand new truck from them with a Triple Dog + Outlook, Exhaust, and Intake installed...

Good deal. There was a dealer in Kentucky that was having some boys I know install stacks, gauges, and boxes on brand new 3rd gen trucks right off the semi before they ever even set them out on the lot for sale.

So how much Christmas bonus did you have to give them?

lol i know a guy that had a suncoast extreme rebuild done with 3 guages in the truck, an sct in the back, and a nitrous bottle in the bed with stacks! Wish i could find a dodge friendly dealer!!!

So how much Christmas bonus did you have to give them?
Just $200 and a Case of Black-label Jim Beam for their X-mas party ;) :HappyMugs

how much did the JB run you, if u dont mind me axin?

Can't Remember exactly, But around $250.. I stock up on Liquor around the Holidays to give to Customers, Contractors, Inspectors & Friends...

still a lot cheaper then a rebuilt tranny LOL

i guess you are right, but what about when this trans goes again, if it does, you still have to buy a built one.

i guess you are right, but what about when this trans goes again, if it does, you still have to buy a built one.


I've decided to do that anyway. I'll just buy a Tranny minus a Valve Body.

This will hold me over in the meantime. I can run Crazy Larry and Turn the TQ management off with no problem.

ah what ever floats your boat, a built tranny woulda been the first thing i did if i knew i was gonna make big power.

$$$$$ It don't grow on trees.... I'm doin what I can for now, but will have a full "Built" tranny before the Twins are in anyway.

trust me, thats one thing i did learn about all of this, all perf. stuff costs money, and I am not of the ignorance to know that there is limitless cash.

Just remember: The Older you get, The more expensive the "Toys" get.

Friends ask me all the time, How the hell do you afford it? I tell em'
"I strapped up, All that money you spend on your kids I spend on my Truck."


That's a nice "Dream Truck" you got there.. Good Luck :Thumbup:

X-Mas Came Early.....


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Show me the TWINS..... :evil:

Keep us informed... cause im tired of hearing of these Duramaxs winning the :evil: DIESEL CHALLANGES.... Lets get a Duudge up there....

im talking to some companies around here about a good Fuel effecent, Power hungary, Streetable set up and i think i might have a good idea....

i have a LBZ down the road from me cracking the 630HP Mark with MINOR Mods IMO.... That is just Stupid....

And your in florida so you are part of the east coast crowd too.... Lets Gett'em.... :nunu:

Keep us up to date... hell just send me PMs about what your doing ... LOL...:Thumbup:

10-4
I'm thinkin mid-Jan is when the "Real mod's" will begin...

Gotta get past X-mas and then I can start blowin money on my Truck.