synthetic for Diesel VS synthetic that can be used in diesels [Archive] - TheDieselGarage.com

: synthetic for Diesel VS synthetic that can be used in diesels


jethrow
12-05-2007, 03:36 AM
I'm referring to Valvoline premium blue found here http://www.valvoline.com/pages/products/product_detail.asp?product=102


and Valvoline syn power Full Synthetic Motor Oil.

Is SynPower motor oil okay for my diesel truck?
Valvoline SynPower is designed for use in light duty gasoline trucks, as well as gasoline and diesel passenger vehicles. Diesel engines in trucks require API CG-4/CH-4 type oil. For premium performance, Valvoline Premium Blue 2000 would be recommended.

any input/output?:stirthepot:

mattymx
12-05-2007, 04:54 AM
Look at this....

Due to the cooler EGR system, a new oil requirement has been developed. Use only oils that are API service rated CI-4 or higher, prefered viscosity SAE 15W-40.
I have verified the following oils meet CI-4:


Conventional Lubricants:
Motorcraft Super Duty 15W-40 or 10W-30
Penzoil Long-Life 10W-30, 15W40
Shell Rotella-T 15W40
Chevron Delo 400 15W40, 10W30
Mobil Delvac 1300 Super 15W40
Valvoline All-Fleet Extra and Plus 15W-40
Valvoline/Cummins Premium Blue 15W40
Union 76 Guardol QLT 15W40
Union 76 T5X Heavy Duty 15W-40
Kendall Super-D 3 15W40, 10W30
Quaker State FCI HDX Plus 15W40
Exxon XD-3 Extra 15W40
Phillips 66 Super HD II 15W-40
Conoco HD Fleet Supreme 15W-40, 10W-30
Citgo Mystik Premium Fleet 15W-40
Citgo Mystik JT-8 15W-40, 15W-50, 10W-30
Castrol GTX Diesel 15W-40
Synthetics:

Amsoil Series 3000 Synthetic 5W30 Heavy Duty Diesel Oil
Amsoil 15W40 Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel and Marine Oil
Amsoil 10W30/SAE 30 Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel and Marine Oil
Amsoil 5W-40 Premium CJ-4 Diesel Oil
Amsoil 10W-40 and 20W-50 Synthetic High Performance Motor Oil
Amsoil 15W40 Semi-Synthetic Gasoline and Diesel Oil
Chevron Delo 400 Synthetic 0W-30 or 5W-40
Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck Oil 5W40
Valvoline Premium Blue Extreme 5W-40 Synthetic
Shell Rotella T 5W-40
Schaeffer's Supreme 7000 Synthetic Blend 15W-40
Kendall SHP Diesel (synthetic blend) 15W40
Petro-Canada Duron XL 15W-40 Synthetic Blend
Royal Purple Synthetic 15W-40 Citgo Mystik SX-8 15W-40 Synthetic Blend
Advantage Duragard Super HD 15W40
Ford is recommending to use the following oils for the listed operating temperature:
SAE 15W-40 is the preferred oil above 30 degrees, but it is acceptable for use down to 10 degrees, and is recommended for towing down to this temperature.
SAE 10W-30 is the preferred weight between -10 to 30 degrees.
SAE 5W-30 and 5W-40 is acceptable for use below 30 degrees, and 0W-30 is acceptable below zero.
(All temperatures are in Fahrenheit)

joebob3093
12-05-2007, 05:10 AM
im running mobil 1 turbo diesel 5w-40, and it seems to turn over alot better in the mornings

sbmar.com
12-05-2007, 06:56 PM
Gentlemen:

I don't know if the attached .pdf file will add help or more debate to what to use, or what not to use.. These are Cummins' thoughts as to "what is" and "what ain't" when it comes to lube oil for their engines..

To me, it's cut and dried as I believe in their test methods, and the fact that this info is not trying to sell you something, says volumes.. IMO, it's good solid & unbiased info, besides being current..

In our markets, we base oil changes on duty cycle and/or engine hours. We deal w/ engines where some use well upwards of 1000 gallons of fuel per LITER of engine displacement per YEAR and only use premium oil filters from Fleetguard and Dino oil that meets their specs.. We have issues quite often in the high duty cycle vessels (ones the operate at close to 100% power much of the time or operate at levels above 60 HP per liter of output) , but never due to oil..

Hope this helps..


Tony

444turbodiesel
12-05-2007, 07:00 PM
No, the only synthetic Valvoline makes for diesel is Premium Blue Extreme 5W40.

Which, coincidentally, is what I use.

worm drowner
12-05-2007, 11:25 PM
A really good source of oil information is Bob Is the Oil Guy (http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?Cat=0). They might be able to help you out.

jethrow
12-06-2007, 05:03 AM
great input, got to take some time to take it all in.


I have always used Valvoline, but I might break the bank with the blue synthetic oil... have to find the next best/cheapest for diesel

mattymx
12-06-2007, 04:55 PM
Gentlemen:

I don't know if the attached .pdf file will add help or more debate to what to use, or what not to use.. These are Cummins' thoughts as to "what is" and "what ain't" when it comes to lube oil for their engines..

To me, it's cut and dried as I believe in their test methods, and the fact that this info is not trying to sell you something, says volumes.. IMO, it's good solid & unbiased info, besides being current..

In our markets, we base oil changes on duty cycle and/or engine hours. We deal w/ engines where some use well upwards of 1000 gallons of fuel per LITER of engine displacement per YEAR and only use premium oil filters from Fleetguard and Dino oil that meets their specs.. We have issues quite often in the high duty cycle vessels (ones the operate at close to 100% power much of the time or operate at levels above 60 HP per liter of output) , but never due to oil..

Hope this helps..


Tony



That is some good info but it cant really be used for those with the HEUI injection system. Our injectors are hydrolic and the lube oil also has to be used as hydrolic fluid. This in itself puts the oil under more stress and breaks it down sooner so finding that perfect oil for the PSD is hard to do. Anyways I run Rotella T synthetic.

Macktruckdriver
12-08-2007, 06:35 PM
I use 76's Royal triton SYN 15w40 thats what we run in all our OTR and EXC. trucks at work. Never seen a cleaner valve train when pulling the valve covers after a million miles besides new that hasnt had oil put in it yet. Youll never be able to find any sludge and after 5,000 miles in my truck its still clean and not BLACK. Ill never use anything else.