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Old 02-01-2011, 12:17 AM   #1
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2003 turbo 10 vane questions

Hi i was wondering what made the 2003 turbos so loud is it the 10 vane wheel or is it somthing else. If it is just the wheel could you replace the 13 vane wheel on the newer style turbo for the older 10 vane wheel. Was just wondering what the differance was the made the 2003 turbos whisle so loud.
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Yea it is the 10 vane wheel it moves a lot more air than the 13 or 15 vane turbos. The wheels can be changed like you are talking about. I prefer the sound of the 10 vane in my 03 over the others.
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If the vanes are changable, what would the part number be and where would I get it?
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so you're saying that its the 03 wheel? i was always under the impression that it was the 10 vanes that made it whistle. hence less whistle with 13 and even less with 15.

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The 2003 model trucks were the only trucks that came out with the 10 vane turbos, when i said 03 in my previous post i was talking about the year model of my truck.

Vanes inside a turbocharger control the acceleration of gases inside the turbo and thus the speed at which the turbocharger itself can accelerate the compressor and produce boost. Tight vanes produce a quick spooling turbo with little lag but one that can quickly choke the engine at higher speeds. This is because the engine is trying to push to much exhaust through the turbo and the vanes are constricting it. Wider spaced vanes can allow a turbo to have more top end capability but at the expense of spool time (otherwise known as turbo lag).

The vanes are not changeable. I mentioned in my previous post 10 vane "wheel" and i didn't mean to call the vanes a wheel.
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So is there any down fall of the 10 van turbo other than more lag?
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The early '04's with the '03 engine also had 10 blades on the wheel.
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It's not enough lag in my opinion to matter, some say the 10 vane with make a little more power in the top end than the others, but the sound of a 10 vane is priceless.
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The early '04's with the '03 engine also had 10 blades on the wheel.
Your exactly right Lilpooh. Don't know why people still get mixed up about the "vanes" and the "blades". I'll say it again for all the members that misunderstand the turbo.

1. Vanes, all the stock 6.0 turbos and even my powermax turbo, have 9-variable vanes or gates that control the flow of the exhaust gasses on the exhaust turbine wheel.

2. Blades, 10-blades, 13-blades, 15-blades, however many blades, they are on the intake compressor wheel.

The whistle is from the intake air flow past the blades.

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Your exactly right Lilpooh. Don't know why people still get mixed up about the "vanes" and the "blades". I'll say it again for all the members that misunderstand the turbo.

1. Vanes, all the stock 6.0 turbos and even my powermax turbo, have 9-variable vanes or gates that control the flow of the exhaust gasses on the exhaust turbine wheel.

2. Blades, 10-blades, 13-blades, 15-blades, however many blades, they are on the exhaust turbine wheel.

The whistle is from the exhaust air flow past the turbine blades.

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I have to correct myself. The blades I was refering to are on the exhaust turbine wheel, not the intake compressor wheel. The whistle is from the exhaust gasses passing the 10 blade exhaust turbine. My bad. Long day. It should read like I've edited above.

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