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Old 02-01-2013, 02:21 PM   #1
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97 12v performance

so i have a 97 12v with a p7100, i am going to be swapping it into my ford, as far as performance what is my best option. is it possible to swap a 24v head to a 12v bottom? and for injectors whats best? i also have a huge turbo off a cummins N-14 i kinda want to put on but i dont know how bad the lagg will be. any suggestions? i bought it with an allison on it but i want to switch to a manual and keep my 4x4. i do alot of work on cummins 5.9s in loaders and excavators but all my customizing experience is with ford 6.0s 6.4s and 6.7s. i have been a ford diesel mechanic for 4 years and at an independent diesel shop for 2
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Good questions, you can make good power with the 12V head and you will usually see just a little more bottom end torque. If you change the 12V head and go for a 24V head you will need to change the pistons as well and rebalance the engine. 24V heads will spool better.

Turbo's well get a good turbo and will be much happier than running something big. Some of the newest products out there will spool quick and support big power.

Injectors well in short the Turbo, Pump, and Injector will need to all be too work together... Too big a turbo will have lag, too big of injectors will have high egts and lots of smoke, a pump that can not deliver the fuel will be nothing but problems.

How much power are you wanting and just how are you going to use this truck?

For a daily driver 300 to 400 rear wheel hp should be enough and how hard is you state on clean air, what year is the truck it will be in?

Transmissions are more of a personal call if you like shifting gears get a hand shaker. Autos do fine if you build it right.
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thanks for the reply, its going in my daily driven 2006 f350. its lifted 6" with 37" mudders so i want to retain my 4x4. id love to convert to a manual trans but i dont know what my options are with 4x4. i basically want a daily driven crazy power sled pulling truck lol. might be too much to ask for but ill try.... maybe ill just leave my 12v head. would coumpound turbos be a bad idea for quicker spool time? and what injectors and pump should i go with? also as far as advancing my injection timing is there a specific degree of timing i should look for based on injectors i choose? sorry for the million questions and thanks again
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If you are wanting to sled pull and build and pretty awesome daily driver here's what I would do.
1. Get the Cylinder head o-ringed
2.ARP headstuds
3.A good flowing exhaust manifold
4.bench test the pump and install a Rack Plug
5.90-120 horse injectors (Buy Good Ones)
6. 18 degrees of timing
7.Compounds I would run a 57/65/12 over a S471
8. Single turbo I would run a 62/71/12 or something similar
9. Good pump tuning goes a LONG way

This should be close to 500 or so horsepower and be real fun to drive.

I know Later has alot of experience and he may chime in on my list and recommend some other stuff. The bottom line is figure out what you want the truck to do and build the engine according to your wants.

All out Sled pull trucks are a different animal than a really good street / tow setup.

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Some other stuff to consider

1. Airdog or Fass pump
2. Good Gauges to read EGT, Boost ect...
3.60# valve psrings if your run compounds or you plan on a 4K GSK in the pump.

I am sure I will give you some more, this is what comes to mind.
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Pulling a sled or drag racing check the rules first. If it is a local ,,, run what you bring event then you can build what you can afford. But most places today have safety requirements and classes, if that is the case then you will need to build to run in a class.

Twins are great but a big turbo with a restrictor bushing may let you run say a 2.4 or 2.6 class. A big single will be sluggish and hard to spool unless you run a automatic with a loose torque converter (high stall) and lock up button plus you can shift a automatic if it is built strong enough. With all you will need to buy and build I would try to stay street stock class. Think about it you are going to need traction bars, axle blocks, a locker front and back, axle loop,,, and the list goes on. A built automatic will set you back, depending on just how much power you are going to make.

Let us know more about what you are wanting to do. It sound like you are wanting to have some fun.
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