Need help with a decision on 06' 3500

Noble · 04-03-2006, 12:48 AM

Thinking about buyin a new 06' 3500 SRW. I'm not sure about the reliability of the 5.9L, when it is chipped/programed. Reading some of the threads it makes me think twice about doing it. I don't want to buy a vehicle that will have trouble running with a 6.0L. I was wondering if there alot of people are just not installing cold air intakes and exhaust along with the programmers. I would like to hear some things about the new 06' Dodge w/Cummins. Please let me know what you guys think and what you have installed on your vehicles. Thanks

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DBogo · 04-03-2006, 12:50 AM

it will still be just as reliable there great trucks

**nevrenufhp** · 04-03-2006, 01:09 AM

I'd buy injectors, twin turbos, a performance module, and exhaust the day I buy the truck...that's if I could afford it in the first place. Meaning, it'll take whatever you throw at it, just like they always have been.

sstockton · 04-03-2006, 02:02 AM

Yeah, they will hold up, you just have to make sure you buy a quality product. the issues I have seen are with people either buying whatever some small hop up shop has in stock like a superchips tuner, or not supporting the power they put to the truck, i.e., throwing on a TST or a Crazy Larry and not doing at least a converter and Valve Body or a better clutch. The rest of the truck can take it though. Also, if you are going to do it, do it right. I'd throw on a set of nozzles or injectors as well, if I was running a big box on one of these trucks. The more fuel that you can put through the injector in a shorter period of time the more fuel you will keep in the bowl, therefore getting a more complete burn and Lowering EGTS while not burning up your pistons. In short the truck will take it, it will take it well and it will be fast. My friend was running 13.7x with a Crazy Larry and a Converter, I think that that should keep up with a 6.0L.

sstockton · 04-03-2006, 02:04 AM

On a side note, everyone I knew with a 6.0L kept it stock and had nothing but problems with them, so they all traded them for dodges and haven't had an issue yet. Not trying to bash, it could've just been the '04 model year, but that is my experience with them.
Sean

Deezle1 · 04-03-2006, 02:14 AM

the 6.0 is like a snowflake...each one is different. Some have problems from the get go and are dogs, others are fine and run like animals! The 5.9 is super tough, anything you throw at it, it will handle it with ease. Mod the crap out of it and it will still get great mpgs if driven right....and if its not driven right you will need rear tires sooner than expected

Dom

McRat · 04-03-2006, 02:35 AM

Just for laughs, drive a 06 Duramax (LBZ/360hp).

It gives nearly "chipped" power right off the showroom. Today a guy ran 14.5 in the 1/4mi at Pomona with NO TUNING.

The "manual select" 6-sp Allison is the best pickup transmission ever developed. You can use it like a manual, or let it shift for you. And if you don't chip the truck, it will last for hundreds of thousands of miles. Common for trucks with the Allison to have the original trans at over 250k.

But in real life, 300+ HP is plenty of output for 90% of those who tow. But if you want the biggest power, right now it's the Dmax.

**nevrenufhp** · 04-03-2006, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by McRat

Just for laughs,.... ...... But if you want the biggest power, right now it's the Dmax.

:roflmao: :roflmao: :umno: :sorrysign: :laugh_explode: :tease :laffup :Insane:

Deezle1 · 04-03-2006, 02:50 AM

i cant wait for that 6.7 cummins to come :evil: then we'll see whats up :grd

Dom

sstockton · 04-03-2006, 03:47 AM

Yeah, maybe biggest off the show room floor, but I don't see any Dmax's making what Garmons truck makes or many others for that matter.

04-03-2006, 12:48 AM	#1
Noble Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 18 Points: 66 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Need help with a decision on 06' 3500 Thinking about buyin a new 06' 3500 SRW. I'm not sure about the reliability of the 5.9L, when it is chipped/programed. Reading some of the threads it makes me think twice about doing it. I don't want to buy a vehicle that will have trouble running with a 6.0L. I was wondering if there alot of people are just not installing cold air intakes and exhaust along with the programmers. I would like to hear some things about the new 06' Dodge w/Cummins. Please let me know what you guys think and what you have installed on your vehicles. Thanks:

04-03-2006, 12:50 AM	#2
DBogo RCFFD #47 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,838 Points: 3,380 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	it will still be just as reliable there great trucks __________________ 1995 Ram 2500 12v NV4500 4x4, 5" ss straight piped , ICEBOX, #10 place, 215 injectors, 4.5gsk, afc full forward, cranked starwheel, autometer boost/pyro, jacobs exhaust brake, 60lb springs, boost elbow, KDP tabbed, HID's, DT Profab +1/2" control arms, silencer ring MIA, air horns 1988 Mack RD690, 300, 8spd, 17' Bibeau dump, electric tarp, leds all around, 2 stage jake, 6" straight stack, the 'ol dog barks 1983 VW Rabbit Pickup, 1.6 N/A, 5spd, stock for now The Desire to Serve, The Ability to Perform, The Courage to Act 100% Volunteer

04-03-2006, 01:09 AM	#3
nevrenufhp Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 3,016 Points: 35,633 Thanks: 223 Thanked 196 Times in 149 Posts	I'd buy injectors, twin turbos, a performance module, and exhaust the day I buy the truck...that's if I could afford it in the first place. Meaning, it'll take whatever you throw at it, just like they always have been. __________________ Dale my daily driver:67 F100, 300 4V, 4 spd. work rigs: 94 IH 4900, DT466(originally 230hp), #0 fuel plate, tighter gov springs, 22* timing or, 06 IH 7400, DT466E, 300hp My Low Buck fuel rate site: www.freewebs.com/nevrenufhp

04-03-2006, 02:02 AM	#4
sstockton Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,513 Points: 20,437 Thanks: 3 Thanked 63 Times in 59 Posts	Yeah, they will hold up, you just have to make sure you buy a quality product. the issues I have seen are with people either buying whatever some small hop up shop has in stock like a superchips tuner, or not supporting the power they put to the truck, i.e., throwing on a TST or a Crazy Larry and not doing at least a converter and Valve Body or a better clutch. The rest of the truck can take it though. Also, if you are going to do it, do it right. I'd throw on a set of nozzles or injectors as well, if I was running a big box on one of these trucks. The more fuel that you can put through the injector in a shorter period of time the more fuel you will keep in the bowl, therefore getting a more complete burn and Lowering EGTS while not burning up your pistons. In short the truck will take it, it will take it well and it will be fast. My friend was running 13.7x with a Crazy Larry and a Converter, I think that that should keep up with a 6.0L. __________________ 2000 2500 reg. cab 4x4 auto 577hp 09 6.7L QC LB stick, 4x4. TOTAL PERFORMANCE DIESEL 707-545-FUEL (3835) www.totalperformancediesel.com

04-03-2006, 02:04 AM	#5
sstockton Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,513 Points: 20,437 Thanks: 3 Thanked 63 Times in 59 Posts	On a side note, everyone I knew with a 6.0L kept it stock and had nothing but problems with them, so they all traded them for dodges and haven't had an issue yet. Not trying to bash, it could've just been the '04 model year, but that is my experience with them. Sean __________________ 2000 2500 reg. cab 4x4 auto 577hp 09 6.7L QC LB stick, 4x4. TOTAL PERFORMANCE DIESEL 707-545-FUEL (3835) www.totalperformancediesel.com

04-03-2006, 02:14 AM	#6
Deezle1 Down With The Slickness Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,352 Points: 2,161 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	the 6.0 is like a snowflake...each one is different. Some have problems from the get go and are dogs, others are fine and run like animals! The 5.9 is super tough, anything you throw at it, it will handle it with ease. Mod the crap out of it and it will still get great mpgs if driven right....and if its not driven right you will need rear tires sooner than expected Dom __________________ a figment of you're imagination... 1997 dodge ram 1500 4x4 318 auto: summit ignition, fastman throttle body, holley fuel pump 23lb injectors, 180* high flow t stat, open element intake, 3 inch cat back exhaust out the side, high flow water pump, high pressure oil pump...needs trans. 87 Chevy K30 6.2 4x4 4 speed...restoration/build

04-03-2006, 02:35 AM	#7
McRat Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 187 Points: 1,098 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Just for laughs, drive a 06 Duramax (LBZ/360hp). It gives nearly "chipped" power right off the showroom. Today a guy ran 14.5 in the 1/4mi at Pomona with NO TUNING. The "manual select" 6-sp Allison is the best pickup transmission ever developed. You can use it like a manual, or let it shift for you. And if you don't chip the truck, it will last for hundreds of thousands of miles. Common for trucks with the Allison to have the original trans at over 250k. But in real life, 300+ HP is plenty of output for 90% of those who tow. But if you want the biggest power, right now it's the Dmax. __________________ 2005 GMC 2500HD LLY "Casper"- LLY O/S 8758. 10.59 @ 129. EFILive "2CP3" Tuning, Mike L Suncoast Trans. PPE Dual CP3's, GT4202R. 2004.5 GMC 3500 SRW LLY "Big Blue" - LLY O/S 1668. 13.12@103. Powered by PPE/VA with Mike L Suncoast Trans. 2006 GMC 2500HD CC/SB LBZ "Wendy"- LBZ O/S 6128. 12.50 @ 107.x. EFILive tuning, Mike L trans. Pat and Kat McSwain "Casper" - B/DT Record Holder, Bonneville (166mph) & El Mirage (163mph) "World's Fastest Production Diesel Pickup - 174.586mph"

04-03-2006, 02:50 AM	#9
Deezle1 Down With The Slickness Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,352 Points: 2,161 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i cant wait for that 6.7 cummins to come :evil: then we'll see whats up :grd Dom __________________ a figment of you're imagination... 1997 dodge ram 1500 4x4 318 auto: summit ignition, fastman throttle body, holley fuel pump 23lb injectors, 180* high flow t stat, open element intake, 3 inch cat back exhaust out the side, high flow water pump, high pressure oil pump...needs trans. 87 Chevy K30 6.2 4x4 4 speed...restoration/build

04-03-2006, 03:47 AM	#10
sstockton Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,513 Points: 20,437 Thanks: 3 Thanked 63 Times in 59 Posts	Yeah, maybe biggest off the show room floor, but I don't see any Dmax's making what Garmons truck makes or many others for that matter. __________________ 2000 2500 reg. cab 4x4 auto 577hp 09 6.7L QC LB stick, 4x4. TOTAL PERFORMANCE DIESEL 707-545-FUEL (3835) www.totalperformancediesel.com

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