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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 08-05-2007, 10:36 PM Thread Starter
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No Start!!!!

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Ok. Was driving my 01 HO last night on setting 5(edge juice) and not rodding it at all. Went around a corner, started back on the throttle and nothing. The check engine light came on and the engine died. As i was coasting i tried starting it agian. nothing. it will crank and after about 7 seconds it gets a little rough. Engine temp was 190, oil press 50-60, fuel press 14 when key on, 12-13 volts with key on, a little below a 1/4 tank of fuel. now i checked intake, filter turbo, no restrictions so we are getting air(as long as the electrical allows it) i thought maybe a fuel issue, but the pressure is 14 w/key on and i loosened the banjo bolt on the vp44 and crakned agian. plenty of fuel flowed out. checked all wiring coneections from the edge, map sensor, etc. truck sounds like it wants to start but wont. how do i check for codes without a scanner? any ideas as to what the hell happened or what is wrong. i turned the edge back down to stock. i'm a little lost and considering the tow truck never showed and i am new in town and the cell phone died, and i was 10 miles from home in the middle of knowhere, the girlfriend and i r pretty tired and cranky after a 10 mile walk. any help would be great.
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torn you key switch on and off 3 times leaving it on the 3rd time without starting it and it will tell you the codes
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It will blink... count the blinks and it will tell you the code.. Or something like that if I recall.. wow.. sorry to hear about your bad luck nothing is more embarassing then breaking down with ur g/f in the truck..! :sofa

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Do the key trick and it will display the codes in the odometer read out. Unfortunately that is not the best way to check and it doesn't always show all the codes. Some problems also do register a code either.

Crack your injection lines and crank it over. It could be air in the lines, or worse, a siezed rotor in your vp. That sounds really classic for a siezed rotor unfortunately. If the rotor is siezed you will get fuel out of at most 1 injector line. If thats the case its VP time.

Just crack the lines, 19mm wrench, and check to see if you get fuel there. What lift pump are you running?
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the codes i got were p0500-vss which i don't think has anything to do with the truck starting. i cracked the banjo line that feed the vp44 and got plenty of fuel. then i cacked 1234 injector lines and got nothing. so new vp huh? is it worth gettin the hrvp44? the other code i got was p1693, which i believe a scan tool can tell you better what the heck is going on. i think it is between the ecm and pcm. i was going to have it towed to the dealership 2marrow and have them check it but it sounds like the vp. if so i might as well tow it home and fix it.
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i'm running a holley pump and am getting 14psi with key on and at idle when it did start.
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Yeah, p1693 is a companion code. It just means DTC in either ECM or PCM and probably came up as a result of the P0500. It really sounds like the VP. The siezing rotor was more common in the earlier trucks, 98.5-00 usually, but the newer ones did it too. It seems I've heard of it happening more in the H.O.'s too.

As for the HRVP being worth it. That really depends on what you use the truck for and what power you're trying to get out of it.
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thanks alot sean. i'm just tron between gettin the hr over the stock. yes i want more power. i'm going to add injectors or tips soon, so i was thinkin the hr would help. i appreciate ur help.
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thanks for ur help sean. i'm just torn between the hr and stock. i'm going to add injectors or tips soon so i thought that the hr would be helpful. i'm thinking in the long run the hr would be better. but i can get a stock for $1060 as appose to $1700 for the hr. hmmm.....
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The thing about the HR is they are always Hot. Even when you turn your box down a they are still a really hot pump. We ran one on my buddy's 01, and there was only .3 sec difference between stage 1 and stage 5 on the 1/4mile with the HR pump. Personally, I think if you want to tow, and you're buying injectors and already have a box, don't go with a HR pump. Especially if you're staying with a stock charger for a while. If you don't tow, then the extra bit of juice isn't bad thing and you can just keep an eye on your EGT's and be fine.

I have heard you can put an S.O. pump on the H.O.'s and gain some that way and have a pump that can still be turned down if you want/need to. I haven't tried it yet though. You may want to ask the guys at schied or II if that can be done or not.
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