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what best and what do i need?

hey cummins lovers i just got out of the ford business and purchased a 2001 3500 with 54000mi. on the odometer. since im a power hound some of yall throw some tips my way to make power. it already has a 4" exhaust kit from the turbo down to the 6" tip with a magnaflow (i plan to totally straight pipe it later) and a air intake system. other than that its totally stock. no chip or anyting. so stuff like what programmer to buy injectors and other sperformance products. thanx yall


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Welcome to the site! :Thumbup:

There is a lot of thing you can do to improve you performance of your truck. But I will warn you right now... Keep a close eye on your wallet these guys here can spend you money quick!

But I would suggest you fix the problemed things first before you start pouring power into it.

* Upgraded fuel system (Fuel lines and Pump)
* Gauges (Fuel pressure, Pyro, and Boost)
* Upgrade Trans (Auto - Valve Body and TQ converter, Manu - Clutch)

Then add you performance mods and bombs...:Thumbup:

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ok pretty basic stuff. thats what i did with my 01 powerstroke. now i had a dp tuner in my ford. their like top shelf programmers and the ford diesel communitty swears by them. whats available for my truck that is of the same caliber and performance potential?
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Welcome to the site! :Thumbup:

There is a lot of thing you can do to improve you performance of your truck. But I will warn you right now... Keep a close eye on your wallet these guys here can spend you money quick!

But I would suggest you fix the problemed things first before you start pouring power into it.

* Upgraded fuel system (Fuel lines and Pump)
* Gauges (Fuel pressure, Pyro, and Boost)
* Upgrade Trans (Auto - Valve Body and TQ converter, Manu - Clutch)

Then add you performance mods and bombs...:Thumbup:

yep, get the fuel pressure guage 1st, if the pressure drops too low the injection pump goes, to keep the fuel pressure up get a air dog fuel pump with filter water separator and larger lines., Pyro guage, Trans is then the weak link see above as minimum necessary improvement. then power, that is the need order of growth. Ed
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ok pretty basic stuff. thats what i did with my 01 powerstroke. now i had a dp tuner in my ford. their like top shelf programmers and the ford diesel communitty swears by them. whats available for my truck that is of the same caliber and performance potential?
My bud has a Smarty in his..not sure of HP gain with it..but it was much better than stock..He is now getting the new Quadzilla Adrenaline (180hp..420 ft-lbs) and stacking it with the smarty..he also has 200 hp injectors which woke it up nicely too :Thumbup:

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Start with guages, and include fuel pressure. After guages you will then know you fuel pressures. I recommend just getting the pump FASS or Raptor, because the stock campaign pump is going to fail, I guarantee it. At that point you can decide wich route to go. If you skip the trans and just go for the power, just know that it's gonna eventually going to become an issue. The Edge Juice attitude is great on these trucks, and it also comes with fuel pressure. Programmer wise the Smarty is always good. If you start diving into injectors you also open up the fact that the turbo probably isn't going to support the airflow required to keep the engine cool, but it all depends on how much injector. Address the weak links first and then have fun. Great truck to play with.

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thanks for the advice guys. this truck is so cherry i wouldnt want to blow it up before i get to really enjoy it. i knew to get a fass first. i had one on my powerstroke and liked it so ill go with one for my cummins. so im pretty sure ill go with a smarty programmer. these have custom files right? excuse the ignorance here but im new to the dodge world
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They Smarty doesn't have custom tuning. They are always revamping there tuning so it's a matter of checking out their site periodically and checking for updates or changes in programming. Hope this helps but the Smarty is awesome.

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ok somehow i had a hunch smarty already had pre-programmed files on them. whats a programmer with custom files then? im looking for one because i can cater my programmer to the mods im going to make to my truck like injectors turbo upgrades etc.. and get exactly what i want weather it be power or with bigger injectors turn down the fuel to get increased mpgs and not just have a programmer that covers everything in a general sense and not be programmed specifically for the mods on my truck
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smarty is a good programmer but if stack with a drag comp it can take power away. on my truck it did. driving down the road didnt feel like it but on the dyno the smarty robbed 70hp from my truck. many of the guys around here sold theres for that reason. the smarty is only about a 65hp programmer.

if you want 500hp then you need quadzilla adreinaline or hot juice/drag comp, fass or air dog, injectors 150hp+, 64mm or 66mm turbo and some transmissions mods

now own 2007 5.9 6 speed afe stage 2, ppe programmer, 5inch silverline turbo back

traded it in 01 dodge, dual disc, drag comp, head o ringed and studed, stock turbo
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