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Fuel pressure guage

On the truck in my sig, my dad's truck, we are discussing the addition of a fuel pressure guage. We are aware of the potential that the lift pump could fail and cause damage to the injection pump so a fuel pressure guage is on the agenda. My question is how does the fuel pressure guage tap in or attach to the fuel system? Thanks.

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On the truck in my sig, my dad's truck,
We are aware of the potential that the lift pump could fail and cause damage to the injection pump so a fuel pressure guage is on the agenda. My question is how does the fuel pressure guage tap in or attach to the fuel system? Thanks.
Straight from Geno's Garage site..http://www.genosgarage.com/departments.asp?dept=92

The need to monitor the fuel pressure from the fuel transfer pump to the Bosch VP44 injection pump is CRITICAL. You should do this with a gauge. We suggest that you not use a pressure light. The light illuminates when the problem has gone too far. With the gauge you can watch fuel pressure trends. Gauges range from $99 (Westach, electronic) to $130 (ISSPRO mechanical) - What I have on my truck...Love it. to $225 (Auto Meter, electronic).

Here is a link to the "big line" filter to VP44 fuel line. It has a spot for a 1/8 in NPT to be attached (TO your isolator; than TO the gauge line itself) This is what I have and it is a very easy way to go, as well as cutting down on restrictive flow. If you have any super specific fuel system questions, feel free to PM me, and I will help out as much as possible. Also I would be happy to send some pictures of my set up, and explain how it works/is set up if you need.

Regardless of your gauge choice, you have to tap into the fuel system. On ‘98.5-’99 trucks you can remove a 1/8 NPT fitting on top of the fuel filter assembly and attach fuel hose or pressure sending unit on top of the assembly. On ‘00-‘02 trucks, the filter design is different. So, we offer a Universal Fit Fuel Pressure Line (Vulcan-FH) that has a female adapter that screws directly into the Schrader valve test port that is located at the Bosch VP44 fuel pump. We offer several other ways to access fuel pressure for ‘98.5-‘02 trucks (banjo bolts, filter caps). We also offer several fuel pressure gauges that you can use to test the truck’s fuel system.


I run the Vulcan Big Line filter to VP line, which has a port for hooking up line to your isolator. It is very simple. Here is the link to that...http://www.genosgarage.com/prodinfo....er=VULCAN_VP02

The install is very easy. I would recommend using this, and at the same time, do your isolator and gauge install.

Here are the Gauge and Isolator, sold through Geno's togeather in a kit...same as I use: http://www.genosgarage.com/prodinfo....ber=ISS-R5604R

And here is the mount I used for my FP gauge: http://www.genosgarage.com/prodinfo....er=GM-DG-15012

As you can tell, I am a fan of Geno's Garage, and when I was getting these pages togeather for you, I saw this on thier site.....
Buy 1 gauge, get SINGLE or DUAL mount at 50% off

So this would put you at about $130 for the gauge and isolator, and with 50% off the mount...$15, so $145, and $50 for the Vulcan line...so thats $195...not bad for a quality set up.

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anybody ever use an electric guage instead of the mechanical one? i know they are a little higher in price,but you don't have to run the fuel line into the cab. just looking at the different options. we have a 99 that the ip is going to have to be replaced on & looking at the options available.thanks
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looks like you need a programer get the edge juice w/attitude moniter you can moniter fuel press, egt,boost, and ten other componets, mot to mention the shift on the fly 5 level settings giving you up to a 120 extra ponies and 350 ft pounds of tourqe and xdp has them on sale for $619.20

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it's gonna cost me $1500 for a new lift pump & inj. pump.,just looking for the best cheapest way to monitor the fuel pressure. a man told me one time that poor folks have to do things poor folk ways. plus im not looking for any extra hp, it does good like it is for what it is used for.
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The Edge Attitude monitor can be used as a stand alone unit. No need to run a fueling box to make it work. Plus, it monitors FAR more than just 2 or 3 things. Virtually no wiring either. All plug and play.

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anybody ever use an electric guage instead of the mechanical one? i know they are a little higher in price,but you don't have to run the fuel line into the cab. just looking at the different options. we have a 99 that the ip is going to have to be replaced on & looking at the options available.thanks
As with all gauge manufacturers, we recommend using an isolator if you are running a mechanical fuel pressure gauge. By the time you add the cost of the isolator, you are equal to the cost of an ISSPRO EV2 electronic gauge. The installation is much simpler as well.

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As with all gauge manufacturers, we recommend using an isolator if you are running a mechanical fuel pressure gauge. By the time you add the cost of the isolator, you are equal to the cost of an ISSPRO EV2 electronic gauge. The installation is much simpler as well.

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thanks for the reply. i was wanting to go the electronic way because of the easier install. can you get me a price for a fuel pressure gauge setup on a 99 24v. thanks stevie
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Sorry, but we don't sell the EV2 or Performax series direct from the factory (we let our dealers have first crack at the newest products). Please PM one of our dealers for a quote. Here is a quick list of dealers who are TDG sponsors (and if I missed anyone, please let me know):
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KT Performance - KT Performance


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