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International/Ford Powerstroke Feud news

Found this:

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/03/09/p...onal-reach-te/
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Ford wants International to pay costs mostly due to improper diagnostics and repairs that were done two, three or four times (wrong problem, or bad workmanship). We have ALL seen this happen, and know it IS happening.

Proper technician training and following proper diagnostic procedures by FORD dealership techs is NOT the responsibility of International.

International, for it's part, is also going to get FULL PAYMENT from Ford for the 6.4L, which IS why the shipments were stopped. Ford has (always) attempted to muscle it's vendors into accepting payments that are much lower than it agreed to.

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Fords answer has always been, that they have more attorneys and backing behind them then the little guy. They have had poor business practices for the past 20 years.

When I was a master mechanic ford vehicles had cheap and ineffective electrical componets and poorly engineered vehicles in my experience. The TSB's, and recalls total more for ford the any of the other big three combined. I will never buy a ford vehicle except the super duty, because there is no competition in a heavy duty truck in my opinion.

Im glad its finally bitting them in the butt. Ford better get their act together or the history books as a 100+ year old company that went broke. GM and Ford both better wake up and smell the coffee. Ford has the highest price truck in the heavy duty line then the other 3, and if they don't put together a dependable and quality truck and or vehicles then its over. The F150 and the super duty is the cash cow that will either save ford or bury them..

Hope I did not state this too boldly, but enough of this childish games between ford and IH. :sofa Either step up and handle the issues or close the dorrs and some other foreign corporation will take over and solve the issue for them...:deal:

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Ford wants International to pay costs mostly due to improper diagnostics and repairs that were done two, three or four times (wrong problem, or bad workmanship). We have ALL seen this happen, and know it IS happening.

Proper technician training and following proper diagnostic procedures by FORD dealership techs is NOT the responsibility of International.

International, for it's part, is also going to get FULL PAYMENT from Ford for the 6.4L, which IS why the shipments were stopped. Ford has (always) attempted to muscle it's vendors into accepting payments that are much lower than it agreed to.

You nailed it.....:Thumbup:
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Fords answer has always been, that they have more attorneys and backing behind them then the little guy. They have had poor business practices for the past 20 years.

When I was a master mechanic ford vehicles had cheap and ineffective electrical componets and poorly engineered vehicles in my experience. The TSB's, and recalls total more for ford the any of the other big three combined. I will never buy a ford vehicle except the super duty, because there is no competition in a heavy duty truck in my opinion.

Im glad its finally bitting them in the butt. Ford better get their act together or the history books as a 100+ year old company that went broke. GM and Ford both better wake up and smell the coffee. Ford has the highest price truck in the heavy duty line then the other 3, and if they don't put together a dependable and quality truck and or vehicles then its over. The F150 and the super duty is the cash cow that will either save ford or bury them..

Hope I did not state this too boldly, but enough of this childish games between ford and IH. :sofa Either step up and handle the issues or close the dorrs and some other foreign corporation will take over and solve the issue for them...:deal:

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I agree 100%. As far as the Super Duty being the most profitable for Ford - again you hit it on the head. There was a report that came out last week that noted the Super Duty truck had a profit margin of 13k - 17k per vehicle. :shrug: Thats a whole lot of $$$ per.

On the other hand I applaud what IH did to Ford on the non-delivery of engines. They basically went all in and called Ford's bluff and made them play their hand. It was a bold move by Int'l and it looks like it worked.

Now on the good side. We can all go back to work so we can afford a 50K+ truck. :Thumbup: :Thumbup:
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Probably gotta get a second job to get one! 17K profit on a truck, no wonder they are 50-60 grand!!
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Anything new in the legal actions.........

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Looks to me like the problem wasn't really solved but a solution was imposed...

Neither side is happy. Wonder if Ford may look to get out of their contract and look for a new diesel supplier...


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