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Mileage and diesel prices

I'm at about 5K miles and I think the mileage is about as good as it's going to get. 14.5-16.5 MPG at 70-80 with about 1K in the bed. 10MPG pulling a 10K car hauler at 70MPH. 12MPG pulling my 6K boat through the mountains. Within 1MPH of my 6.0 and not that far off of my 7.3 on the same roads with the same loads. An easy trade off for the refinement and power. Love the truck.

I'm surprised nobody has commented on the change the change in diesel prices. It's gone from about a 30 cent premium over regular gas to about 10cents cheaper in the past week. The cost of the ULSD transition is finally going away.
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In my short 20 minutes driving an '08 6.4L I thought the power was similar to what I have now in a mildly modded 7.3L. I get the same mileage you are getting as well so I came to the conclusion that it wasn't an "easy trade off". What I really liked was the quiet cab. That might be worth it all by itself. No bashing, I was somewhat dissapointed that it wasn't "that much" better.

Diesel prices - for a long time diesel was the same or jsut a bit higher than premium gas or $.20 more than regular and now diesel is a full $.40 cheaper than regular gas here. None of the fuel is cheap right now but I am very glad to be driving a diesel now!!!
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Diesel by me is $2.87, regular gas is $3.39...

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Diesel by me is $2.87, regular gas is $3.39...
50 cents strikes me as a huge delta. When did the change transpire?

I had heard that once the refiners transitioned ULSD would again be less than gas for the same reasons it was cheaper before. That said, I guess I had become used to it being higher than gasoline. A pleasant surprise although still pricey.
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50 cents strikes me as a huge delta. When did the change transpire?

I had heard that once the refiners transitioned ULSD would again be less than gas for the same reasons it was cheaper before. That said, I guess I had become used to it being higher than gasoline. A pleasant surprise although still pricey.
No way. I have a feeling that diesel prices will bounce around and stay close to the price of mid grade or premuim gasoline. The demand for diesel is high and the profit potential is there. The oil companies are in business to make its billions and thats just what they are going to do. I read also that once they made up there money for the initial cost of switching to ULSD, diesel prices would fall, but you wait and see. something will happen. Prices will go back up and there excuse will either be that the cost of maintaining the equipment used to make ULSD is higher OR a pipe will brake, a plant will go down. It will be something.

When a line or plant goes down, the cost of fuel goes up. We (the consumer) pay for its repair while the oil companies continue to make its billions in profit. Well, if my sprinkler line breaks I (owner) have to pay for its repair. The oil companies should have to pay for its own repair. Thats just my opinion, but I know its not that simple. It should be but its not.

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Diesel has been around that here by me for a month now, at one point I paid $3.09 a gallon a few months back..what is funny to me is the difference in price between stations..A Marathon is $2.99, while the shell, and Amoco are $2.87 and $2.89 ....gas prices within the last few weeks have just kept rising..I put fuel in my truck on Saturday, and it was $2.87 a gallon..while 87 octane at the same gas station was 3.37...

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Well I worked on a guys house that was a gm of a oil refinery here in SLC(wont say which one) He said it cost about 3 billion for the sulfer machine per plant. Now I thought about this he said that most refinerys have three and four of them to meet demand for it. It might have taken maybe few months to get back the cost on them. So prices go down... Here is my thought Bio is said to reduce emissions by like 50%. Why isnt the EPA Trying to push Bio? Not only is it a cleaner fuel its cheaper we can grow it and it saves the earth. Instead of trying to make the motors that more cleaner lets clean up the fuel. Make a standard for the bio that everyone hast to follow and mass produce it. Then the makers of the motor with let you run it with out losing your warrenty and everyone wins. Just my .02.

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2.77 diesel and 3.04 gas
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They wont make bio a standard becuase the government is in the oil companies pockets, look at our leaders they are all in oil. The oil companies have tried to give bio a bad name and have had sucess somewhat. I will admit that there has been some bad bio fuels made due to no standards in the beginning but that has been taken care of or is in the proccess of being taken care of. People talk about having problems with soy diesel but if you have used good fuel in the past and use a good soy diesel you will not have problems most likely, If poor fuel was used and then switch to soy it will clean all the varnish and dirt out of your fuel system and give you wome filter problems in the beginning. We have used a 20% blend in all deere tractors, komatsu construction equipment, semis with cat and cummins, pickups with 7.3, 6.0 psd, cummins , and d max and have had zero problems for about 4 yrs.
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Diesel is $2.97 while Unleaded is $3.37 in L. A.
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