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Diesel Fuel additives

Alright then. As with a lot of other searching on the internet, I have found varying degrees of pros and cons when it comes to fuel additives. With just under 5000 miles on the 6.4L, I want to do what is best for my new fuel system.
With ULSD the only thing to run here, is a fuel additive necessary to keep up lubricating properties, not really “knowing” how good the fuel you buy is? I am trying to stick with truck stops for the most part, but sometimes I have to sneak a mom and pop station in there every now and again. Any thoughts will be most appreciated.
John, as always, I am sure your imput will be helpful.:bow:
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whatever you decide to use, make sure it is formulated for ULSD.

As for the Mom and Pop place... the thinking is because they don't go through the fuel as fast, they will have more "water" from condensation in the tank, which could lead to gelling and also more "floaties" :shrug: which could lead to clogged fuel filters.

I usually run PowerService but in all honesty have not put any in this year.

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HOLY Cow!!! What a read. Thanks for shooting it to me "can of worms guy" I am pretty slow, so it took me awhile to pick up on your avitar . I am still pretty much at a loss though.
I am "guessing" 2-stroke oil will affect regen intervals. Would I be correct in thinking this?.
But as Russ and others said in the thread, use ash less oil, so maybe that will not be the case.

And just one more. Did anyone really come up with a final answer weather to alternate between using additives and 2-stroke to try and get the best of both worlds to keep my system right?
I am just trying to do my best for my first real truck.:thanks:
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I am "guessing" 2-stroke oil will affect regen intervals. Would I be correct in thinking this?.
That is an excellent question Mike. As new as the dpf systems are, I don't think we know that answer yet.

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As far as dealing with 2007+ model truck that require ULSD there has been little to no testing done yet for ULSD fuel trucks.

As for the DPF and regen cycles I have no idea what effect it would do to the DPF system. But there is a few people with 2007 (ULSD fueled) 5.9L Cummins (without DPF) that are using 2 cycle with no ill effect in performance or other wise...

But since 2 cycle oil is NOT a valid additive for fuel most dealers will VOID the WARRANTY for unauthorized fuel additives...

So at this time I would stick to high quality BIO diesel or high quality additive that are DPF ready...

You can still use the chart of HFRR values to make a educated decision...

http://mopar.mopar1973man.com/2002%2.../HFRR/HFRR.htm <- HFRR testing

http://mopar.mopar1973man.com/2002%2...DS%20Links.htm <- MSDS sheets on common additives...

To help you stay on track here is a good ratio calculator...
http://mopar.mopar1973man.com/2002%2..._oil_ratio.htm

You'll learn as you use the calculator how much fuel you working with compared to additive amount you using...

I could keep going but I better stop...:sofa

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I run the optilube XPD for the last 4 months I've seen about a .5mpg increase the truck seems smoother. I use to run the stayadyne performance didn't notice anything !
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I gave my truck a dose of DK white usld formula, due to the -20* temps outside.
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It is pretty frightening to think that Ford would void a warranty over a fuel additive but I have seen worse than that on this site and others.
I think I will just stick with the Flying J truck stop down the road for now.
Thanks everyone for all of the impute.
Mopar Man, those are some awesome write ups. They are very much appreciated by me and I am guessing a lot of other truck people.
WOW!!! Look at that!!! A Dodge, Chevy, and a couple of Ford guys all getting along just fine. Who would have thought it???
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It is pretty frightening to think that Ford would void a warranty over a fuel additive but I have seen worse than that on this site and others.
I think I will just stick with the Flying J truck stop down the road for now.
Thanks everyone for all of the impute.
Mopar Man, those are some awesome write ups. They are very much appreciated by me and I am guessing a lot of other truck people.
WOW!!! Look at that!!! A Dodge, Chevy, and a couple of Ford guys all getting along just fine. Who would have thought it???
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well I guess if ford is going to void my warranty due to me using fuel additives I guess i can cut my dpf off now :Thumbup:
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