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Winter Issues...

Is it just me or is anybody else having problems with their 08' this winter?

Mine's losing power at highway speeds. Yesterday the engine shut down. It all cases, I have got the engine running and was able to continue down the road.

In Dec she gelled up on me. After replacing the filters and ensuring it had appropriate additive she ran fine.

However its been -30F the past few days, Still running #2 with additive and a half tank of #1. Essentially 50/50 mix with a anti gel additive, Power service.

Is she still Gelling up? Do I need to replace the filters...again? Or is something else wrong. Ford told another guy here the PCM shuts the engine down if the turbo temp drops to low, any truth to that?

When she gelled in decemebr it was at 20 mph, yesterday's power loss and other power loses experiance this winter since gel up were at highway speeds (65mph) at temps below -20.

This is really become annoying, I need relieble transportation I can't live through a breakdown on a lone ND highway.

I don't have a problem taking it into Ford but its like a weeks wait.

Thanks in advance.
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Also are you running a winter front? the 6.4L seems to need it more then the previous geneartions
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Also are you running a winter front? the 6.4L seems to need it more then the previous geneartions
Yes

IAW with owners manual below 32F.

Anybody insulate there fuel lines? I may have to set the rig up next year with battery blankets, oil pan heater, and insulated fuel lines (if possible).

I bought a new truck for reliablity, perhaps I was mistaken in choice.
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It could be your fuel itself. Do you buy at a high volume station?

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im not necessarily a big fan of additives but when it gets REALLY cold
you NEED to dump some anti-gel in the tank

and you REALLY need to keep up w/ the maint. of the filters & draining the HFCM.

filters will keep the water outta the injectors but then the filters can FREEZE
if they have water collected on 'em (its the whole reason the hfcm has a drain)....
dont wait for the WIF light to drain the separator.

I dont know if the 6.4 kept the heater in the HFCM or not...my 6.0 HFCM
heats the fuel.

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It could be your fuel itself. Do you buy at a high volume station?
No I found a tank on the side of the road with old fuel in it...free

Yes, I fill up at the Truck stop, and have changed stations and still have problems. Before you ask I use the big truck pumps, as they go faster, but also just incase the lone pump in the auto section feeds from another tank.

Figured I'd leave that for the boys with small fuel necks.
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im not necessarily a big fan of additives but when it gets REALLY cold
you NEED to dump some anti-gel in the tank

and you REALLY need to keep up w/ the maint. of the filters & draining the HFCM.

filters will keep the water outta the injectors but then the filters can FREEZE
if they have water collected on 'em (its the whole reason the hfcm has a drain)....
dont wait for the WIF light to drain the separator.

I dont know if the 6.4 kept the heater in the HFCM or not...my 6.0 HFCM
heats the fuel.
Yes I am running anti gel, specifically Power Service additive as previously stated.

The filters were changed 12/24/2008, how often are they supposed to be changed? I thought the manual said 12 months or 12000 miles, obviously gelled filters require replacement earlier, despite what anti gel additives state.

I drain water once a month as of now or every other fill up, have yet to see the light.

Yes the 6.4 heats the fuel in the HFCM, not sure if its constant or not. I suspected that mine maybe inop.

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by your maintenance you should be fine.

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Yes I am running anti gel, specifically Power Service additive as previously stated.

The filters were changed 12/24/2008, how often are they supposed to be changed? I thought the manual said 12 months or 12000 miles, obviously gelled filters require replacement earlier, despite what anti gel additives state.

I drain water once a month as of now or every other fill up, have yet to see the light.

Yes the 6.4 heats the fuel in the HFCM, not sure if its constant or not. I suspected that mine maybe inop.

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Is your truck parked in a heated garage at night? If it is that may be some of your problem. The moisture can get wicked into the fuel system from the change in temperature. I always fill my truck up before I park it inside when it is really cold out. That or when it is cold let the truck stay cold and just plug it in.

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