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Oil Analysis with ByPass Filter

Check it out.

Called these guys up to ask a few questions and got right through.

I have the FS2500 ByPass Filter and asked if they thought it was doing its job.
Told me the oil could go to 10k and resample, roughly, 4400 miles more. They pointed out the insoluable % was low compared to the average. The TBN is 5 but I have no idea on the scale range but guess that is good. However, they are concerned with fuel % and will advise on next sample. Potential fuel injector leak. Except for the fuel, filter is doing its job.
Also asked about the amount of coolant they found in the oil. There is a question mark on the doc. and he said that they found traces of potassium and will advise on next sample. Interesting that after the intercooler change, the coolant level has remained constant for over 650 miles.


I have changed my oil every 5-6k miles. I am going to let this one ride to 10k and resample to compare.

You guys were right, Blackstone worked out great.

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lets see the report !

whats the percentage of fuel in the oil ? its an important thing to watch
w/ these trucks.

I can tell you if i change my oil after a quick/short run (instead of a good
long/warm/hot run of more than 45min) that i show higher levels of fuel in
my oil (marginal as they are).

if youre showing more than 2.5 - 3 % fuel, youve got an issue.

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Molly is a little low
As is the BORON
And so is the ZINC

And your viscosity is falling off.
Even the flash point is a little low.

To me the above markers indicate the loss of important KEY lubricating elements.

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Hear is a copy of mine as the truck had more then the normal amount of changes when new just how i brake them in and onces at 10000 it has been ever 5 other then the one for this as i did the change. Normaly it goes to the dealer and gets them free this is on a stock filter set up
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demolition what oil are you using ?
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demolition what oil are you using ?
Oil gets changed at dealer and I was told 15w40 cj4
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Molly is a little low
As is the BORON
And so is the ZINC

And your viscosity is falling off.
Even the flash point is a little low.

To me the above markers indicate the loss of important KEY lubricating elements.
I was thinking the viscosity and flash point were due to the 3.5% of fuel. Do you think the Moly, Boron and Zinc are due to the fuel intrusion as well?
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I was thinking the viscosity and flash point were due to the 3.5% of fuel. Do you think the Moly, Boron and Zinc are due to the fuel intrusion as well?
the fuel would absolutely impact the viscosity (and of course the flash point).

either way all of the above are IMPORTANT LUBRICATING additives....not
having them or seeing them SIGNIFICANTLY reduced is NOT a good thing.

I dont want to blow this outta proportion BUT...those chemicals are IMPORTANT
and need to be watched.

I dont know the trends for the 6.4 but the 6.0 will sheer oil down in 6k
miles if not earlier.

Id be MOST interested to know when this oil was changed...how long
had the engine been run BEFORE the oil was drained....it is NOT good
to just warm these engines for 15min (as an example) and then pull the
plug.

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Pretty sure the oil was changed beginning of November and has 5600 miles on the sample.
The oil was sampled from the test port in the bypass filter after I drove about 40 miles at highway speeds. Truck sat for 10-12 minutes prior to sampling. Bypass element just hit 10,000 miles and needs to be changed according to FS2500 doc.
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