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In you're honest opinion what do you guys think?

Hey guys, I like you have a 2008 F-250 crew cab lariat and it is a really nice truck. My question is for reliability and longevity do you think a 2005 dodge quad cab cummins would be a wiser choice when my lease runs up. So far I have not had any major problems with my truck except for the tick and some cosmetic warranty issues. A friend of mine has a 2005 cummins laramie and said he would sell it to me in 3 yrs when my lease is up. He only drives the truck a couple times a week and it only has 30,000 miles on it now. I love the look of the ford and that is the main reason I went with it, but I just have doubts about the long term effects of the dpf system on the engine and it's life expectancy. These trucks are very expensive and I want something that is going to last a long time. Do you think the 6.4 is capable of a long life?

I want to add that I don't load the truck up often and if so it is with wood. I don't usually pull a trailer, but I do plan on buying a 30ft camper in the future. Please let me know your honest opinions. I am not knocking ford at all, in fact I have always loved for trucks and never owned a dodge, so please give me your input. I have 3 yrs to decide. I currently have 13,300 miles on my f-250. Thanks guys.

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I think you will be able to answer your own question because you can compare both trucks personally. The Cummings in the Dodge is a great motor and if you brake in the 6.4 in the Ford it should live a long life also. The Ford gets the nod because it's newer, you broke it in, and the cab and frame is far superior to the Dodge.

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I must say I do take very good care of my truck and yes it is newer. But on the same note my friend is very anal about maintenance of his dodge too! I hear the dodge trannys are not so hot. I know the ford's tranny is a bit beefier as well. Like I said my main concern about my truck is the dpf system. I have been on the website here and see that many guys have removed them, but how do you get the truck inspected then. Does dmv inspection stations test emissions on these newer trucks yet?

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I believe that the emissons equipent on thses new trucks is chit. In canada the filters are only covered until 60,000km. So we take them off. Yours on the other hand are covered until 100,000miles. So if you put on 15,000miles in a year, the dpf and related equipment will still be warrentied until the end of your lease. Once youre off warrenty it doesnt matter if you have a dodge chev or ford. They are all exspensive to fix.

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Personally...I would just enjoy your truck for the next 2.5 years. A lot could happen in 3 years. If the Dodge is still available in 2.5 years...and you don't think you want to purchase your current truck outright at the end of the lease...then contemplate your next move.

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In my opinion you would be better sticking with what you have. I got 155,000 out of my 05 6.0L with a few small problems. And these new 6.4L's are heads and tails above what the 6.0L was. If you are worried about the DPF and don't want to ad any power I would suggest removing the DPF/DOC and go with a stock tune with the regen turned off.

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Thanks to all of you for your input. I think you guys are right, just enjoy it until it is time to make a decision. That is a long way off and who knows by then I guess.

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I'll be the unpopular one... for longevity and long term reliability I would not think twice about trading for the 05 Dodge. The 6.4 (and Dodge's 6.7) both dump fuel for regeneration and emission purposes resulting in fuel dilution in the oil. Diesel manufacturers have already acknowledged a decrease in expected longevity as a result of this. The LMM Dmax is the only one of the three currently doing the DPF thing right with adding fuel directly to the DPF, thereby largely avoiding the fuel dilution problem.

I've had no major mechanical problems with my 6.4. Yes, the fuel economy sucks for a diesel pickup, and I hate the torque converter functioning of it. I'll be dumping mine as soon as the 2010 models hit the showrooms. I may be a guinea pig, but it will not be like I am walking away from a truck that I love and have no issues with.
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Hey guys, I like you have a 2008 F-250 crew cab lariat and it is a really nice truck. My question is for reliability and longevity do you think a 2005 dodge quad cab cummins would be a wiser choice when my lease runs up. So far I have not had any major problems with my truck except for the tick and some cosmetic warranty issues. A friend of mine has a 2005 cummins laramie and said he would sell it to me in 3 yrs when my lease is up. He only drives the truck a couple times a week and it only has 30,000 miles on it now. I love the look of the ford and that is the main reason I went with it, but I just have doubts about the long term effects of the dpf system on the engine and it's life expectancy. These trucks are very expensive and I want something that is going to last a long time. Do you think the 6.4 is capable of a long life?

I want to add that I don't load the truck up often and if so it is with wood. I don't usually pull a trailer, but I do plan on buying a 30ft camper in the future. Please let me know your honest opinions. I am not knocking ford at all, in fact I have always loved for trucks and never owned a dodge, so please give me your input. I have 3 yrs to decide. I currently have 13,300 miles on my f-250. Thanks guys.
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The LMM Dmax is the only one of the three currently doing the DPF thing right with adding fuel directly to the DPF, thereby largely avoiding the fuel dilution problem.
Yes this is the way it was suppose to be done.
I agree I just don't like chevy's or gmc's.
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