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Bedplate Oil Leak

My truck is just over a year old, and it has about 12000 miles
on it. It has had no problems at all, until a few weeks back I
noticed a small weep of oil towards the back of the engine
up by the oil pan. Took it to Ford and they did the oil dye test.
They couldn't find where the leak was coming from. A week
later I noticed brake fluid leaking from underneath the brake
master cylinder. Took the truck back to Ford to look at the
break master cylinder and to have another look at the oil
leak. Ford has now informed me the truck has a bedplate
seal oil leak, and will also need a new break master cylinder.

So, I've been doing some research on the bedplate oil leak,
and I've found that it's not uncommon for the 6.0L, and there are
a few cases of people with 6.4Ls having this problem. So,
anyway, my question is ... would it be bad to wait for a while
to have this fixed? I'm guessing that since the repair has been
authorized by Ford that they would not like the idea of me
wanting to wait to repair this. Or, if something happened in the
mean time, I could be 'blamed' for waiting on this repair? How
bad is a bedplate oil leak if it is just a small weep of oil? I'm
sure there are more people out there with this problem who have
just not yet become aware of it.

I'm far from a mechanic and am just looking for insight and guidence
on this. I just hate the idea of having to pull the engine for such a
small leak. What do you guys think? Any insight is greatly appreciated!

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If Ford is going to foot the bill i'm having trouble seeing why you would want to wait to get it fixxed.

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If Ford is going to foot the bill i'm having trouble seeing why you would want to wait to get it fixxed.
I agree with you ... I guess some guys have a problem
getting Ford to approve this kind of work. But, the other
side of my brain says ... "think of all the things that could
be made worse" when they pull the cab, remove the engine
flip it over and dig in.

Also, I've heard different stories about how long it can take;
some have said weeks, others have said days. My dealership
has said three days.

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I believe I have the same leak as you. I can't find where it coming from, but the drip is on the front of the tranny. My truck is a job 2 with 13k on the OD. Noticed the leak a week ago. Let me know how the repair goes. I need to have it looked at. TIA

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I agree with you ... I guess some guys have a problem
getting Ford to approve this kind of work. But, the other
side of my brain says ... "think of all the things that could
be made worse" when they pull the cab, remove the engine
flip it over and dig in.

Also, I've heard different stories about how long it can take;
some have said weeks, others have said days. My dealership
has said three days.
The dealer gets a set price from Ford for the repair, so it is financially beneficial to the dealer to get it done at or under the set time. 3 days would be my bet. As for open up other problems, an oil leak will cause more problems than the fix.

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6.4 Leakers. Mine does it also with 15,000 km's and have seen many with the same leak. It is just baffling how they can screw up such simple things as making an engine leak proof or even installing fuel injectors properly.
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I believe I have the same leak as you. I can't find where it coming from, but the drip is on the front of the tranny. My truck is a job 2 with 13k on the OD. Noticed the leak a week ago. Let me know how the repair goes. I need to have it looked at. TIA
Will do ... Monday's the big day. I'm going to go ahead and
take it in for the "operation". We'll see how it goes and
how long it takes, etc ...

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Update

Update on bedplate seal oil leak work:

Dropped the truck off on Monday morning. Service writer said it would be a three day cab off job. I called on Tuesday afternoon to check in and see how they were coming along ... service writer said the work would probably be finished early Thursday.

Got a call from Ford at 11:30am on Thursday conveying the truck was ready for pick up. I wasn't able to get back in town to pick the truck up until Friday afternoon. Upon my arrival at the dealership, I did a detailed inspection of the truck ... got up under the hood, under the vehicle, checked all over inside and out, and then started the truck up ... and all was well except for an adjustment that needed to be done with my stick shift. It was way to "floppy". Anyone who has driven one of these manual trans 08s knows what I mean when I say there should be no flop in the stick shift at all. The truck was taken to the back and the mechanic found that he hadn't gotten a cross bar and hex bolt located under the shifter seated all the way. This was fixed in about 20 minutes.

Once the the "flop" in the stick shift was corrected, everything felt and sounded and looked fine. And, thus far the truck is running strong ... like it always has. No ticking, no leaks, no arcing noises. No creaks from the cab off. Everything looks and feels fine.

The only thing I can report that is odd is that the engine sounds a little bit louder from within the cap with all the windows up. I believe I recall having read someone else reported this phenomenon after a cab off bedplate leak job ... but when I read this I thought it must just be imagined because of a higher level of attention after having the work done. But, now I have to say that there is a little bit louder engine noise that comes from what seems to be the transmission area. It's not the transmission though ... I did a test where I coasted down hill at 75 mph in gear without accelerating and the noise was not there ... but when accelerating it was there. Coasting out of gear the noise is not there. Revving the engine out of gear the noise is not there. But, when accelerating in 1st, 2nd, 3rd ... it is there. It just sounds like a diesel engine, but the noise is separate from the engine noise heard up from under the hood. Anyway, it is minor, and not annoying ... just a little different than it was and just strange ... I can't really figure why it would be a bit louder.

I haven't talked to my service guy about it ... it's so minor I'm going to just roll with it for a few days to see how it goes.

Oh, and they put 16 quarts of oil in after the reassembly. Why does Ford do this? The manual calls for 15 quarts, yet many people are reporting Ford is putting in 16. Strange ...

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Took the truck for a 310 mile unloaded road trip yesterday. It
was all freeway driving at 75-80 mph. The truck runs great,
but towards the end of the trip I noticed a "whining" noise which
is louder than the engine and is coming from somewhere up front
it seems ... somewhere near or around the radiator area. That's
the best I've been able to do so far to locate it.

This morning with the truck cold, the noise was not present. At
some point when the truck got up to operating temp, the noise
returned. When I shut off the engine the noise continues on for
about 2 seconds and then stops. There are no leaks anywhere.
The volume level of the noise stays consistent throughout
changes in engine rpm. But the volume of the noise does increase
or decrease at times.

I wish I would have waited to get this bedplate seal work done

I'll try to capture to sound in an audio recording this evening
and post it up to see what you guys think it could be ...

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