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So recently I had the fire lit under my rear end to go through additives for fuel. There are numerous ones out there; but which one works the best for the money you pay. From lubricity to improving combustion what have you guys/gals seen that works?

I sell Lucas Oil, Seafoam and Diesel Aid at my work. All three mainly add lubrication to the diesel fuel. Lucas claims to clean up the chamber and fuel system. Diesel aid mainly prevents gelling, but, claims to add lubrication as well to the fuel. I work with a guy who swears by Stanadyne. A dew of my friends use the Power Service products. If you add lubrication no matter what to the ULSD you will pickup something since the way they engineer diesel now reduces the natural lubrication properties.

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I have used Power Service, in the white bottle. I could not really tell the difference in my Ford 6.0 engine. After that, I don't use anything.

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Ford has convinced me to use the Ford Cetane boost.
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Hmmm, I know there are what two bottles Power service has. White and Gray? The only thing I sell from that company is the 911 red jug. I couldn't really fill in anything information wise on that.

Bear, does Ford produce their own Boost additive or has some company make and bottle it for them?

Would any happen to know if each company, Cummins, Detroit etc market their 'own' additives?

http://www.stanadyne.com/view.php?id=74

http://www.powerservice.com/dfs/

http://www.powerservice.com/ap/

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I worked on Class eights, and never once had a customer come in with a fuel problem and state he put in an aditive.
Why would ford build an engine that needs a cetain booster to run properly, That to me is the ultimate in stupidity the timing is wrong so add an aditive. There are additives that are necessary sometimes an antigell if you are heading north in the winter. Also a biocide if the system gets contaminated or is old fuel.
Putting in an aditive that emulsifies water so it passes threw the filter, is stupid it will destroy the injectors, and fuel systems. On a Ford it is from a $8,500 to a $12,500 bill and Ford does not cover it, because they do not build a proper fuel filtration set-up, even without adding anything.
I have never once seen a fuel system repaired from a bottle. Class eights use a lot more fuel and work a lot harder than anything and do not have a problem with Lubricity.
A poorly designed fuel system has problems and blames it on everything, but the real problem.
The federal government has suits against a lot of companies for pedaling crap, Prolong comes to mind, but it is still on the shelves.
Cat use to have stickers on their equipment, Buy clean fuel and keep it clean. That works for me.
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Yes indeed, good post John!

What if everything is at the best, and you just want that little more umff?

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Archoil 6200 in the fuel year round and white bottle of power service for anti-gel in the winter. Archoil 9100 in the oil since its a 6.0 and it makes it run like butter.

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Never heard of Archoil, thanks for mentioning it and your experience. Numerous truckers use Lucas Oil's standard heavy duty oil stabilizer which immensely outsells their fuel additive where I work.

Are there any trucks that must use synthetic oils in the engine or is everything pretty much mineral based oil still for the 15w40?

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I would PM Harry 6.0 as he tends to be just on the 6.0 forum. He is one of the main guys who researched Archoil products along with Bismic and a couple others. I know a lot of people think additives are snake oil and I'm sure some are but the AR9100 product makes a big difference in the HEUI system in a 6.0.

Not sure if any truck engine manufacturers require synthetic but I had a 2005 VW Jetta TDI that specified 5w-40 synthetic oil in the manual. I ran 15w-40 in the summer and 5w-40 in the winter. Car had 170k on it when they gave me another company vehicle with no engine issues. I'm convinced VW specified it so that the general public would not have starting problems in the cold months. It always started and didn't require being plugged in but if I ran 15w-40 a little too late in the year I started pushing my luck.

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I run Stanadyne Performance ocassionaly and always when towing. I run it mainly for the extra lubricity. Some will say its not necessary as long as diesel meets standards, but many people will run synthetic oil over dino oil even though dino oil "meets" manufacturers standards. A area injector shop that rebuilds pumps and injectors for highway and industrial equipment requires at least a tankful of diesel run staynadyne for break in of rebuilt pumps.
As far as performance goes I don't have any personal data for increased performance. All I can say is the enginge feels more " peppy", more responsive to throttle when running it. Also seem to get about up to 0.5mpg better.

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