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air to water intercooler

Has anyone used one of these? Looking at using it for sled pulling. If so was there much of a gain over the factory air to air? Whose set up did you use? Thanks any info will be very helpfull. Roger
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To my knowledge, the factory ATA is more effecient than Water To Air.

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Air to Water intercoolers can achieve 100+% efficiencies, where as a good air to air will get 80-90%. BBunting used one last year with good results. I am doing one for this year. There is one for sale on alldieselmotorsports.com by DART505, I believe it is a PT-900 with resv, piping and pump. Precision Turbo in Hebron IN is where quite a few guys have been sourcing them from. Check on Turbonetics website, they have some good info on benefits and different types. I beleive David at DI is also getting in the business, I'm pretty sure he runs one on Snow White. The ATPA Superfarm tractors also run them. With an air to water, if you want to street drive, you will need a heat exchanger or you will just heat soak the water and it will be worthless.
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We ran air to water on Cummings NTA motors for quite a while. When Cat came out with air to air there was a huge discussion as to which was best.

Somewhere I have some test data and comments from Cummings engineering division on the comparison.

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Thanks for the info guys!!! Anyone else have any info THANKS Roger
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Roger, Rod ran one last year ask him what about it. I thought it was a pain in the butt.
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Roger, Rod ran one last year ask him what about it. I thought it was a pain in the butt.
Yeah I think it will be a pain also. Just wondering if the gain is big enough? I need every little bit I can get.
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the problem with old water to air coolers, (atleast on john deeres) was they were hooked up to the cooling system so your cooler was only getting as cool as the water temp, that system would be dirt cheap to convirt to a resivoir setup if you were to use it for tractor pulling. The competition Air/water coolers are the same aspect except the water is pumped through a confined Ice box that isnt for extended periods of use. If you want to daily drive it some i would find a good air/air. If its for a dedicated puller and you want to step it up to super street in the next year(s) I would go ahead and buy a air/water. They are a PITA to plumb, but for going down a track in 90 degree weather at 20 MPH they are going to be way more effeicant. I would assume this is for a Duramax. I don't know much about who makes Air/Air coolers for Dmax's, so you might have to get a custom setup if you want a high boost setup, If there isnt someone that doesnt make it already.
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How do I get ahold of Dennis? He has'nt been on the site for some time. Was his experience good or bad? Thanks Roger
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