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Changing the GVWR

I am looking at buying a used international rated at 33,000lbs

Is there anyway in The republic of New York State to change the GVWR so I do not need to get all my employees CDL licenses?????

I need it titled at less than 26,000lbs In New York if it is registered for 26,000 it does not matter it is what it was rated when built.

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I am looking at buying a used international rated at 33,000lbs

Is there anyway in The republic of New York State to change the GVWR so I do not need to get all my employees CDL licenses?????

I need it titled at less than 26,000lbs In New York if it is registered for 26,000 it does not matter it is what it was rated when built.

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Yes, you just register the truck at 26,000 when you apply for the registration when you buy it. What you'll have difficulty with is if it has airbrakes. Even if you de-register it to 26,000lbs, it will be tough to explain to the cops why a non-cdl driver is driving a truck without an airbrake endorsement.

Make sure you buy a hydraulic braked truck to lower the hassle factor significantly.
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Yes, you just register the truck at 26,000 when you apply for the registration when you buy it. What you'll have difficulty with is if it has airbrakes. Even if you de-register it to 26,000lbs, it will be tough to explain to the cops why a non-cdl driver is driving a truck without an airbrake endorsement.

Make sure you buy a hydraulic braked truck to lower the hassle factor significantly.
That does not work in New York. They go buy the titles GVW not the registered weight.

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That does not work in New York. They go buy the titles GVW not the registered weight.

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Then the only thing left I can think of is to have the truck re-titled at a lower weight, but if it's got airbrakes you're still screwed.

I swear, New York sounds worse than Kalyfornya.

You have my sympathy.
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A body builder in your state has the labels for the door jamb to go with the modifications to the truck that change the GCWR and GVWR. Then a trip to the scales in most states.

Most states have a class D for pickups and such that need an endorsement for hazmat, no reason not to have an airbrake on a D CDL. Doubles - maybe not.

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Another possibility is to "disable" the truck somehow to cause you to have to have the truck derated, like LoPro wheels & tires, removal of a helper spring, etc.

Seems like the easier path is to just find a 26K GVWR truck with juice brakes. They're so many of them out there becaue no one wants to get their CDL.
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The other issue to find a 26,000lbs truck is that it needs a 110,000 psi frame to mount the aerial lift. That heavy of a frame usually only comes in a 33,000 lbs truck unless it is special ordered.

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I dont know about New york, but in IL the drivers license a standard license says ANY single vehicle w/a weigh rating under 2600l lbs. SOME cops i have talked say your regular license is good on any vehicle and any brakes. OTHER state cops have told me you need an air brake endorsement, and since you cant get an air brake endorsement on a class d license if it has air brakes you need a class b cdl. AGain these are different answers i got from state cops so I dont know how new york is.

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I dont know about New york, but in IL the drivers license a standard license says ANY single vehicle w/a weigh rating under 2600l lbs. SOME cops i have talked say your regular license is good on any vehicle and any brakes. OTHER state cops have told me you need an air brake endorsement, and since you cant get an air brake endorsement on a class d license if it has air brakes you need a class b cdl. AGain these are different answers i got from state cops so I dont know how new york is.
If that cop was right, then what's the use of having an airbrake endorsement in the 1st place?
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well like i said thats what the license says any single vehicle under 26000lbs and as the cops said you cant get an air brake endorsement on a d license so your good to go. The problem is all cops interpret it how they want.

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