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Smokey Versatile 2210

We have this New Holland/Versatile 2210 tractor that smokes/misses like no other when it is started and it is cold. It is only a couple years old and we have fewer than 1500 hours on it. I've spoken with the service department at the dealership we bought it from and they said that that is simply what that series of tractors is like. Just wondering if anyone else here had any personal experience with them. I should mention that it does have a grid heater on the intake and a block heater. If we use just the grid heater, it smokes like crazy. If we use the grid heater and plug it in for several hours it smokes less but still seems to smoke more than it should for having been plugged in.
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If it can be adjusted, I wonder if the fuel injection timing is retarded to much.

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Any sign of fuel leaking anywhere. Have 8430 JD on the farm I work on that cracked a injector line and did the same thing.
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No, I've never seen any leaks on it. I may check into the timing thing though. If it's not too hard to change maybe I'll advance it a few degrees and see what happens. Thanks.
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I,m not familiar with that particular machine, but if the pistons have a precombustion chamber, that could be your answer. The old IH dv550 diesel engines were notorius for just what you are talking abt. I worked at an IH dealer in Odessa Tx. in the early 70,s and one company bought a fleet of them. In the summer time, no problem. In the winter time, when they started several at a time, you could not see for the white cloud. One question i forgot to ask. Has it done this ever since you have owned it?
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Wow, I posted that like over 3 years ago. Apparently, the gear on the crank shaft has slipped so the engine isn't timed exactly as it should be. I don't remember what had been done at the time I originally posted but I do know, it went back to the dealership twice while it was still under warranty for this same issue and now the warranty is up and they may be able to provide a 'new, updated' crankshaft that the gear is not supposed to slip on but will still charge us the labor to install. This is a common problem with this tractor/engine combination. The engine is labeled as a Case New Holland 7.5L. I'm not sure who manufactured the engine.

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Might be an Iveco engine. Know CNH is using them in other machines. If Buehler (sp?) owns those now, I'm not sure what they'd have under the hood.

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