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Lets discuss 20 series Deere's :Thumbup: . I ran across a 4020 MFWD recently and wondered what anyone knew about them. I've seen some 4020,4320,4520,and 4620 PFWD's but never a MFWD.
What about the PFWD's? Were they common or pretty rare too? I found a 4620 PFWD non runner but in decent shape I was considering picking up but have no idea what it's worth :shrug: .

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To me 5-6000 dollars would kill it:shrug: . I know FWD is rare, I would like to have one myself. Ive seen a few slick 2wd's go for arond that price, and all they needed was paint. If it ran it would be worth more, but you could spend some money on that engine. Give whatever its worth to you.
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Get yourself up here :Thumbup: . There's like 9 or 10 PFWD 20 series tractors on this sale.

Any idea what if cost to have a motor rebuilt in these? I know the newer ones are high.

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To me 5-6000 dollars would kill it:shrug: . I know FWD is rare, I would like to have one myself. Ive seen a few slick 2wd's go for arond that price, and all they needed was paint. If it ran it would be worth more, but you could spend some money on that engine. Give whatever its worth to you.
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MFWD on a 4020? I doubt it was a factory option, but who knows. PFWA, sure. Only seen pics of one. Boss said he used to own a 4430 with the PFWA. Said it was about worthless.

I've seen a 1206 IH with MFWD at the Farm Progress Show before.

A short block for a 4620 from my local dealer quotes $7k and $1760 for an overhaul kit. If you can do the work, I'd suggest the o/h kit and do the work yourself. But, I'd check out what all was done to a factory reman. If it has a fresh fuel injection pump, oil cooler and oil pump, it might be worth it to get a reman.

If you do the o/h, I'd replace the oil pump and maybe the front timing gears if they are sharp. Had the head checked over by a shop (pressure checked and magnafluxed, decked (if needed), valves and seats ground if needed).

Might not hurt to have the fuel injection pump and injectors checked out. Then you'll be good to go for a long time.

Check the bottom end out, too.

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I did a little research on the MFWD 4020 and apparently it's a Mud Hog conversion like the combines had.
I'm going to try to buy the 4620. It's a late model with powershift and side console. It's free but the starter was shot and would just click so I couldn't get it to start .

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May or may not be the starter. Wouldn't be surprised if it is.

Are all of the batteries, cables and connections all good?

Is it a 12v starting system or 24? If 24v convert it over to 12. Not much more than the new 24v starter. MUCH less of a headache. We have 2 4020s. One is still 24. What a pain in the butt.

Can still use the same batteries, just need to wire them in parallel instead of series.

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I'm not sure if it's 12V or 24V,I didn't really think about that when I was there . I know our 4020 is 24V and it's far from the best. I do know a 24V starter is as expensive as heck.


The batteries were dead and I had my D-Max boosting them. One smelled like rotten eggs so I assume it had frozen and the other seemed OK.
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May or may not be the starter. Wouldn't be surprised if it is.

Are all of the batteries, cables and connections all good?

Is it a 12v starting system or 24? If 24v convert it over to 12. Not much more than the new 24v starter. MUCH less of a headache. We have 2 4020s. One is still 24. What a pain in the butt.

Can still use the same batteries, just need to wire them in parallel instead of series.

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06 4500 Duramax/Ally 4x4 Monroe,EFI Live,Danville turbo, CM flatbed
11 2500 Duramax/Ally 4x4 H&S tuned and deleted {GF's truck}
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Our 4520 got to where it would not turn over. You would have to beat on the selinoid then it would start. Its been rebuilt about 4 times now. 12v is much better.

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The batteries are junk. The rotten egg smell is hydrogen. Very flammable.

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Well the PFWD's brought between $8000-$11000 for unknown condition tractors. There was a repainted 4020 PFWD that bought $20000 and the MFWD only broungt $4500 but was missing a lot of parts. I still should have grabbed it cause it was a rare unit.

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04 3500 Duramax/Ally EFI Live,feed truck with 3 bale Hydra-Bed,very sick trans
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11 2500 Duramax/Ally 4x4 H&S tuned and deleted {GF's truck}
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Some Green Equipment and a heard of Black Angus cows
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