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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 02-18-2014, 06:48 AM Thread Starter
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Pulling with a 2007 f350

I got a craZy plan to buy a 3 car wedge hauler trailer, my f350 is rated to 14000 gvrw with 18 inch wheels, I got 2s from the factory, do you think she is up to the challenge? I plan on installing air bags at the back, perhaps an exhaust break! Or upgrade the brakes, it will see a lot of mountain grades, any ideas will be appreciated
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A dually tow boss model with 4:30 gearing and headstuds would be a better setup for heavy hauling. An exhaust brake feature can be custom tuned in using the turbo variable vanes with an SCT X3 tuner.

If it were me, I would probably go with gearing...headstuds...egr delete...custom tuning. Upgrading the brakes will be very expensive, by upgrading that dosen't mean slotted or crossdrilled rotors as they actually decrease your braking power unless you go with larger rotors and calipers, but to do that you run into fitment issues unless you convert the spindles and rear axle.

My buddies 06' dually towboss has all the right setup for towing heavy, but he has studs and egr delete with custom tow tuning with an exhaust brake tuned in using the turbo vanes, and he can decend long steep grades with a heavy load and never hardly have to touch the brakes, it really works well.

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I got the head studs and erg delete and the x3 too, getting better brakes are costly for sure ( but a new truck is more costly ) I'm going to have to take my x3 back to the shop and deleted my erg and whatnot and get them inboard I'm figuring 12 Hun pounds a vehicle
.x 3 vehicles that's 3600 plus 4500 for the trailer 11000 pounds, I don't think that's gonna a big deal and it's got trailer brakes.the gears would be nice but I think the power she makes is suposta be near the 500 mark and I think I'll need a big transmission cooler
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Thanks for your input by the way Harry I do appreciate it all
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I did what you propose for a lot of years with both three and four car haulers and from my personal experience and for what it's worth, you don't have enough truck to do the job long term. Some will disagree but a light truck is just not heavy enough and the brakes are just the start. I found it much better to set up a medium duty chassis as an expediter rig with a "Western Hauler" type bed and either a three, or four car hauler trailer as the downtime was much less than any of the light duty truck chassis I started out with. I've seen a lot of guys run through the staging yards with light trucks whom swear by their rigs, but I was not one to run on credit so didn't trade off units until they were well worn out. There's a lot more profit available by running equipment set up properly for the task and most of the light duty trucks are not.

If you do pursue this route set you up a nice sleeper berth or motels will seriously impact the bottom line. I've seen some really nice setups in pickups with a crawl through fiberglass sleeper berth, and back seat areas modified to relax in when not driving. I used 48, and 60" berths which were very nice on the chassis I set up and kept the motel bills in check.

Again, my thoughts only and no disrespect meant.

The question I seek an answer for is simply; why, or why not?
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I'm in total agreement with you there mr back slap, a single axle fl60 or similar with a small cat or a internashional with a 466 would be a lot better, I've drove Otr a lot of years I get what your saying about motels too, one of the attractions of me getting this ford was it's a crew can and I'm able to lay right out in the back seat and sleep reasonably well, I won't be doing this as a career, I got some trips I have to make home to the prairies and my thoughts were instead of wasting money flying back to the west coast, I can pick up a load of old classic cars and make a few bucks selling them out here, the 6000 pound trailer I found online was just a thought, and because nothing is easy I would have to safely bring it all over the Rocky Mountains, but to buy a bunch of equiptment for this venture I can't see it being a money maker, ( but to be fair seeing the bottom end of my 6,0 scattered along the highway wouldn't be a profitable option either ) I suppose I have some mulling to do.

Again thank you all for your advice
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The biggest thing I'm seeing is you're underestimating your load. Average 50s era full size is 3500lbs, average muscle car is 3000lbs, figure the average 1950-1980 single cab short box pickup is 4000lbs. You toss 3 muscle ats on a 6000lb trailer and you're at a minimum 15000lbs, possibly as high as 18,000.

Your truck is factory rated at 15,000lbs of fifth wheel or gooseneck, and a Gross Combined Vehicle Weight rating of 23,000lbs.

For reference, on the Cat certified scales, my '05 F-350 CCLB 4x4 weighed just at 7,280 empty stock, with all my gear and me, that number was closer to 7,850. With the family and our 30' 5th wheel I towed from SoCal to North Dakota, all through South Dakota, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Utah, Nevada, Washington, and Oregon. We had about 1,000-1,500lbs of room under the GCVWR of 23,500lbs.

Take my 7,850 and add 18,000 from a loaded 48-53' wedge, that's 25,850. Your past single rear wheel trucks ability. By almost a full car.

Maybe go with a lighter 32ft. gooseneck and haul two vehicles and have a margin of safety. You'd just have to find some good deals you could flip for a solid profit when you get back there and it could totally be worth it.

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That's a very good plan, and thank you very much for your reply
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Or just fill the glove box and console with METH and call it a day.

I mean your handle is outlaw.

Sorry couldn't offer anything after Idaho350's logical break down of the situation.

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That's rude... Out law is what ford called my truck after they put red leather seats in it, apparently there must be a law against red leather?
( it's all good btw, I'm a bit rude at times myself, )
Idaho really did answer all I wanted to know, I called a trailer dealer today and right away he trying to talk me outta 32 foot flat deck and into a 4 car wedge, saying I could legally haul 4 cars? Any how have a nice day everyone
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