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Archoils new AR6400-D

Been field testing a new fuel system and combustion chamber cleaner from Archoil called AR6400-D.

Some history...

The product was originally tested in the EU market because unlike the US, Europe is predominantly a diesel market, with most consumers and virtually all commercial vehicles using diesel. It took 2yrs and many formulation changes to get where it is now, with 100% active ingredients and no fillers, as is with all of Archoils products.

The current packaging is 430mL bottles (14.5oz) and these treat between 12-22 gal, so I had to put 2 x (14.5oz) bottles in my 29.5 gal tank to get near maximum treatment % levels.

Furthermore and unlike conventional cleaning additives, it contains 100% active ingredients, the very best available with zero useless fillers. Polyetheramine and mid-molecular PIBSA detergents, nano lubricants (product is very lubricious) and combustion catalyst technology, pure 2-EHN cetane improvers etc. These all combine to provide a very powerful product that rapidly cleans the fuel system, removes post combustion carbon, restores MPG degradation, lowers emissions and so on.

Results...

In my 6.0L PowerStroke it was truly incredible. My first refill at the same station and the same pump, I hand calculated 19.5mpg, thats around town with some freeway driving, it's usually an average of 16mpg. Also the power and performance level increase with this product in your fuel is a whole new experience. When towing heavy trailer loads of hay last weekend my low end power had increased substantially to where it pulled 10k loads of hay uphill effortlessly, same with taking off from a dead stop, lots of torque available. The exhaust tone of the truck was also noticeably cleaner sounding and all gauge readings were in the sweet zone.

Two Duramax trucks, my coworkers 06' saw an increase from 21mpg hwy to 26mpg hwy, that has never happened before on his truck. The other owner said his Duramax has not run this good in 50k miles and thinks he is going to get an extra 100 miles out of his tankful. (this is what they actually told me) along with the huge power increases.

We gave a client 2 bottles to try in his 06' Cummins that cannot pass emissions testing due to excessive soot opacity, even with it returned to stock tunning, but likely has some bad injectors. Still waiting for the results on this one, haven't heard from him yet.

When I received the AR6400-D for testing the results were so impresive that I ordered a bunch more, but sold out locally in 2-3 days, but have more enroute. Archoil is working on repackaging into diesel truck size containers for the USA market, as the ones now are basically car size and have EU market terminology on the bottles. I suppose you could treat a half a tank of fuel with one bottle.

Anyhow, that whats new, take it for what it is, but I believe this product has again without question raised the bar in fuel system and combustion cleaners world wide, even much better than anything BG chemical co. sells (we have tried those too at my work) and has set a new standard industry wide. It offers a substantial increase in power like your running a triple dose of AR6200. It's a once in awhile fuel treatment that keeps things cleaned out, like carbon build up on the pistons and injector tips and upper cylinder head inside the combustion chamber, then it's recommended to maintain the system with AR6200. It's selling huge in Europe, and their fuel is substantially better than ours to begin with, so it's very dramatic on our low grade no.2 fuels. They also offer the gasoline version which is just AR6400 without the D designation, the results have been the same in my old Dodge 5.9 gasser pickup as well as many other vehicles we have run it in.

I'm usually not one to say anything will increase your fuel mileage but using your right foot lightly, but this product really is impressive to say the least.

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So we have a secondary level of fuel modification from the boys at Archoil. I'll have to order some. My 7.3 has proven itself to be happy to oblige with better fuel mileage than I ever got from my 6.0 did. But being a 16 year old truck, I'm pretty sure this would have a positive impact on things. Thanks for the new product info Harry!

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Do you know what % of the product is 2-EHN? I have ran pure 2-EHN and it work well. The problem is finding it here in the states. Usually if you look it is at 50% or less.
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Do you know what % of the product is 2-EHN? I have ran pure 2-EHN and it work well. The problem is finding it here in the states. Usually if you look it is at 50% or less.
The only info I have is the EU tech sheet...
http://archoil.eu/wp-content/uploads...eet-Europe.pdf

The bottles are labeled in British terminology, but say's made in USA on the bottles I received.

It say's it raises the cetane by 7 points, which it definitely acts like. But I think it's the combination of the ingredients that give it the wallop.

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I don't know if this is the latest msds but it is low on the 2ehn when you factor in the other chemicals in the mix.
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Harry,

How much is it, and what's the lead time?

06' F250 Mods:

Performance related:
-K&N E-0780 Air Box, ZooDad Mod
-Garrett Powermax Turbo, CFM+ Smallmouth Intake Manifold
-Blue Fuel Pressure Spring, Large fuel lines from pressure regulator to heads
-MBRP 4" Turbo back exhaust; cat installed
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Reliability Mods:
-Refurbished 50 volt FICM, Eliminated STC fitting, upgraded stand pipes and dummy plugs, Bulletproof Diesel EGR cooler, upgraded turbo oil supply and drain
-Oil change rotation; 5k-5W40/5k-15W40/5k-15W40
--Rotella T5 or Valvoline Blue Extreme 5W40, Rotella or NAPA 15W40, Archoil 9100 friction modifier (16 ounces to crank case; 10 ounces to each differential)
--2/3 Qt. tcw3 2 cycle oil per tank Power Service (5 oz. Stanadyne every tank)
-Cooling system flush with Restore and VC-9 @ 73,000 miles w/new thermostat
-Eliminated clunk while sitting at a light (75,000 miles); Lubed rear drive-shaft spline with Ford lubricant; Symptom returned at 100,000 miles...re-lubed at 112,000 miles....wow!! it's so smooth again.

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The Archoil site shows it @ 19.95
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My site has it listed at the same price, my enroute stock order shipment ETA is for next Monday 7-7-14

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So, would a person want to use this prior to a fuel filter change?

So, at every oil change is what they have recommended. (for us that change oil every 5000 miles)

But, the helper in this is the cetane spike of 7 points. That would help the fuel for sure, but, will it keep helping the MPG long after the first tank?
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Sounds really great, but quite frankly it isn't much of a cost savings at $20-$30 per tank of diesel (unless of course one treatment lasted 2+ tanks of fuel). Definitely not trying to be negative, just practical.

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