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2006 F250 6.0L won't crank

I have a 2006 F250 6.0L diesel.It will not crank. I have put new batteries in it, the old
ones were shot. I have checked all the fuses and they are good. On a OBD reader I get 2 codes.

1st code- Injector Pressure Control Sensor voltage low
2nd code - Cylinder 1 Glow Plug Circuit Open

Any idea what is causing the no crank problem?
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If by no crank you are indicating the engine is not turning, your potential issues are: failed starter, power issues from the ignition switch through the relays and PCM, or hydro locked cylinder due to a failed EGR cooler.

If the starter is turning the engine, no crank is the wrong description and it would be a fail to start. The diagnosis would involve determining fuel is present with 50+psi, oil is present, and that the engine meets both the base oil system pressure and volume, and that high pressure oil system reaches minimum pressure of about 500psi.

If the truck has never had any high pressure oil system repairs and isn't making enough pressure, it could simply be an STC fitting, a $60 fix that takes about 7-8 hours for a first timer. If the truck is not making any pressure, the HPOP is potentially the issue. More info is needed to further diagnose.

Don't randomly buy stuff to fix things either, take a little time to figure out what's wrong, then you can spend you money better on anything related that may need attention while your getting to the source of your current problem.

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Thanks Idaho350. Sorry I wasn't clear on the no crank. it won't turn over at all. About the only thing I haven't checked is the starter, although I have bumped the starter and it does engage. I'm gonna look a little closer at the starter and the starter relay today.
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If you hit the key and the starter clunks or thuds, it's engaging the flywheel. At that point, check your coolant level. If it's down, and you don't know where it was going, it's in a cylinder. Most likely EGR cooler failure, at which you need to remove all the glow plugs, turn the engine by hand several rotations to clear the coolant from te cylinders, then try cranking again. At that point it should crank, but don't try starting it. Pull the EGR valve and see if it looks wet and gummed up if it does you'll need to install a new EGR cooler. You'll need an oil cooler and EGR cooler kit, probably a new EGR valve, coolant, oil and filter, and a 12-pack of beer for when you're done, possibly a case if things don't go well. I you start on a Saturday morning you should be done by Saturday night, but you may need to finish Sunday depending on your skill level and tool selection. Everything is metric, you'll need deep and shallow sockets, extensions and I'd suggest a small mirror and magnet on telescoping sticks. My 6.0 did this back in '08, it happens.

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I completely agree with Idaho on this one.

Hopefully when the locked engine situation ocurred it was while it was in the driveway or garage and not while cruising down the road, otherwise it is likely to get really expensive.

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Before you get too deep into it make sure nothing belt driven is locked up, a/c comp especially.
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Before you get too deep into it make sure nothing belt driven is locked up, a/c comp especially.
If the coolant level is normal and he hasn't added, I would say this is possible, however, less likely.

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Injector tip failure is another possibiity for a hydro-lock. Probably need to hand crank it and see if there is any movement with the belt loose or removed.

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Before you get too deep into it make sure nothing belt driven is locked up, a/c comp especially.
I agree here ^^^^^^^^^

Have you had A/C issues lately?

Just pull the belt off and give it a crank.

There is a thread on one of the truck forums where an A/C was locked up. Three shops said it was hydro locked. They trailered the truck back to Arizona from back east and found it was the A/C clutch. Sad part was, the second post on the thread
had suggested it being this issue.

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Seems this has been diagnosed as a failed A/C compressor then. Disregard my suggestion to check for low coolant, as using your eyes to view something is apparently more difficult than taking the belt off.

It could also be injector related as Harry suggests, both injector tip and the copper washer and o-rings are possibilities. There is even a remote chance that it could be a seriously blown head gasket, cracked head, or other mechanical failure. But as this member posted minimal info about the truck, no history or modifications list, it is hard to say what it is, or know any specific direction to look to. Everything posted here to help would be a wild-assed guess.

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