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Has anyone tried the off brand head studs on ebay ?
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For all of the work it takes to change the head studs, I would not use off-brand head studs.

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What "off brand" are you talking about?
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Pioneer, Bavarian, Eurasa, and Falcon to name a few but after a closer look they are not rated as high as ARP.
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2005 F-250,XLT Extended Cab,2X4 6.0 363 CID DI V8 ENG.Born 03/05 Metalic silver
American Made in Jefferson County KY.
Torque Shift 5 speed Auto. 373 Gears.[Second Owner]
Refinements Are as follows.
ARP 250-402.PDF Head Studs [One at a time]
Blue spring kit
CCV Mod
EGR Cooler ["GONE"]
Fog Light Mod
Greas Zerk in Drive Line Slip Joint
Harpoon mod.
HFCM Valve #6E7Z-9C082-A
Injector Spools [Cleaned for Stiction]
Scangauge 2
Updated Stand Pipes & Dummy Plugs
XDP Coolant Filter Kit
Zoodad Mod
Updated STC Fitting
SCT tuning


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Not sure on the comparison of strength what I would look at is the resources ARP puts into being the best when it comes to manufacturing, development, metallurgy and things like creating lubes for torquing. I don't like how it's hard to find the yield strength values as that is the true important value. You would never tensile a head bolt and if you did you have much bigger problems. The reason our stock head bolts stink is they are yielded at the factory meaning they have already exerted all of their clamping force and there is no strength in reserve.

http://www.autospeed.com/cms/article...Terms&A=110592

There was recently a post in the heavy duty section about some stretched brand new out of the box OEM CAT studs. Most likely due to a bad material batch or improper heat treat.

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Xln't link you provided Weld! Like that article on the application and tensile strength of the different materials.

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Thanks Weld Engineer that is some great Info.
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2005 F-250,XLT Extended Cab,2X4 6.0 363 CID DI V8 ENG.Born 03/05 Metalic silver
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Torque Shift 5 speed Auto. 373 Gears.[Second Owner]
Refinements Are as follows.
ARP 250-402.PDF Head Studs [One at a time]
Blue spring kit
CCV Mod
EGR Cooler ["GONE"]
Fog Light Mod
Greas Zerk in Drive Line Slip Joint
Harpoon mod.
HFCM Valve #6E7Z-9C082-A
Injector Spools [Cleaned for Stiction]
Scangauge 2
Updated Stand Pipes & Dummy Plugs
XDP Coolant Filter Kit
Zoodad Mod
Updated STC Fitting
SCT tuning


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Weld if you don't mind me asking what amount of torque did you start with when installing your studs.
I have my engine down for EGR cooler and oil cooler so I am going to pull injectors to check Orings, so I may as well install studs now.
Ed

2005 F-250,XLT Extended Cab,2X4 6.0 363 CID DI V8 ENG.Born 03/05 Metalic silver
American Made in Jefferson County KY.
Torque Shift 5 speed Auto. 373 Gears.[Second Owner]
Refinements Are as follows.
ARP 250-402.PDF Head Studs [One at a time]
Blue spring kit
CCV Mod
EGR Cooler ["GONE"]
Fog Light Mod
Greas Zerk in Drive Line Slip Joint
Harpoon mod.
HFCM Valve #6E7Z-9C082-A
Injector Spools [Cleaned for Stiction]
Scangauge 2
Updated Stand Pipes & Dummy Plugs
XDP Coolant Filter Kit
Zoodad Mod
Updated STC Fitting
SCT tuning


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Weld if you don't mind me asking what amount of torque did you start with when installing your studs.
I have my engine down for EGR cooler and oil cooler so I am going to pull injectors to check Orings, so I may as well install studs now.
Ed
Ed,

If your doing them one at a time (pulling 1 bolt and replacing it with a stud) then I followed the ARP instructions but I skipped to the second torque since I didn't want my clamping force on the heads to loosen if that makes sense. If you are pulling the heads then follow directions as specified. I have had no issues and as long as you understand the risk and have confidence your gaskets are intact then I'd do it. I did a thread on my job. 1 ARP at a time. Sorry on vacation and my phone is tough to post on. The rear studs are tough but achievable.

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Thanks weld that is what I needed to know as I am doing them one at a time as I don't have any gaskit problems.
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American Made in Jefferson County KY.
Torque Shift 5 speed Auto. 373 Gears.[Second Owner]
Refinements Are as follows.
ARP 250-402.PDF Head Studs [One at a time]
Blue spring kit
CCV Mod
EGR Cooler ["GONE"]
Fog Light Mod
Greas Zerk in Drive Line Slip Joint
Harpoon mod.
HFCM Valve #6E7Z-9C082-A
Injector Spools [Cleaned for Stiction]
Scangauge 2
Updated Stand Pipes & Dummy Plugs
XDP Coolant Filter Kit
Zoodad Mod
Updated STC Fitting
SCT tuning


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