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Fuel Additive?

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I still have the EGR and DPF :. Its been really cold here for Southern Indiana, the low last night hit -1. I stopped using addivtive when I had sooting probs last summer. The question I have is, is there any DPF safe additive that wont soot up the truck. For now I have just been keeping the fuel tank full(to prevent condensation) I just don't want to keep running the risk of gelled fuel. any Ideas as Im not to hip on getting yet another turbo or loosing warranty just yet. I know its a lot colder when some of you guys are.

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First off, why would this get moved to the general section. No other general dodge trucks have egr's, and dpf's, so it belongs in the 6.7 section. But all I can tell you is I started to run Howes. One quart treats 125 gallons, and I put one quart to 25 gallons, and filled my filters full with it. While the truck was high idling in the driveway, it turned the pretty white snow, black with soot. I had never noticed that before. Point is, I know I overkilled the additive, but I was glad I'm missing a few things. I would think a good 60/40 blend would keep you good without additive, but then your putting alot of trust in where your getting your fuel.

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I don`t think a good fuel conditionner has anything to do with plugged DPF and I rather get the DPF change 10 times under warranty than having a frozen fuel line and break down on the side of the road with temperature below -10. I`ll never get my butt frozen for Chrysler

One thing I can tell, is that when you`ve done the delete it takes forever for the truck to warm up but hey, that`s the only negative side I found so far about the delete!

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I would say 2 cycle oil... But you can't use that...:

I've been down to -20*F and never had a single issue with gelling or freezeing of fuel yet.



I do not suggest anyone with DPF or 2007 or newer vehicle even trying 2 cycle oil...

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Guys,

I still have the EGR and DPF :. Its been really cold here for Southern Indiana, the low last night hit -1. I stopped using addivtive when I had sooting probs last summer. The question I have is, is there any DPF safe additive that wont soot up the truck. For now I have just been keeping the fuel tank full(to prevent condensation) I just don't want to keep running the risk of gelled fuel. any Ideas as Im not to hip on getting yet another turbo or loosing warranty just yet. I know its a lot colder when some of you guys are.
Here is an additive that is compatible with the diesel particulate filters.

AMSOIL Diesel Concentrate is recommended for use with all types of heavy- and light-duty, on- or off-road and marine diesel engines. Recommended mix ratio is one oz. of additive per five gallons of fuel. Use with every new tank of fuel for the best performance and protection against fuel pump wear, injector wear and injector deposits. Compatible with all types of exhaust emission systems such as diesel particulate filters (DPFs). Add Diesel Concentrate to fuel before storage. Excellent for use with AMSOIL Cetane Boost and AMSOIL Cold Flow Improver. This diesel fuel additive complies with the federal low sulfur content requirements for use in diesel motor vehicles and non-road engines.

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I don`t think a good fuel conditionner has anything to do with plugged DPF and I rather get the DPF change 10 times under warranty than having a frozen fuel line and break down on the side of the road with temperature below -10. I`ll never get my butt frozen for Chrysler

One thing I can tell, is that when you`ve done the delete it takes forever for the truck to warm up but hey, that`s the only negative side I found so far about the delete!
I have heard that it does take longer to warm up with deletes. I still have a little while before I can do them. But so far so good this winter. When do you guys start to see gelling (Temp). Thanks guys lots of experience out there I appreciate the info.

Mopar Man, Yeah 2 cycle would not be good with this motor. Its kinda picky on what you feed it. I know there is fuel around here not to run and others it runs better than great on. I guess Ill keep giving it what it likes , and not give it what it doesn't.

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I didn't gel until -15, and should mention that it geled in my remote located filters. What pi$$es me off, is that my fuel alone is supposed to be good to -20.

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Diesel Recovery Emergency Fuel Treatment

This product just came out a few mouths ago.
If you live in cold climates it might be something to have in your tool box.

AMSOIL Diesel Recovery (DRC) is an emergency diesel fuel treatment that dissolves the wax crystals that form when diesel fuel has surpassed its cloud point. Diesel Recovery liquefies gelled diesel fuel and thaws frozen fuel filters, avoiding costly towing charges and getting diesels back on the road.
Fast Fuel Recovery
Diesel applications operating in extremely cold environments face some unique challenges. As the temperature drops, wax naturally found in diesel fuel begins to form crystals. The point at which wax crystals form is known as the cloud point. These wax crystals can eventually clog the fuel filter and starve the engine of fuel, preventing it from starting or even stalling out a running engine.
AMSOIL Diesel Recovery quickly dissolves gelled fuel to allow the operator to continue driving with minimal downtime. Diesel Recovery separates the molecular bonds of wax crystals that have agglomerated in diesel fuel. It thaws frozen fuel filters and reduces the need for a new filter, saving oney and preventing an inconvenient trip to an auto parts store.
Quickly Dissolves Gelled Fuel
Thaws Frozen Fuel Filters
Performs Well in ULSD, Off-Road & Biodiesel
Alcohol-Free
Non-Corrosive


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This product just came out a few mouths ago.
If you live in cold climates it might be something to have in your tool box.

AMSOIL Diesel Recovery (DRC) is an emergency diesel fuel treatment that dissolves the wax crystals that form when diesel fuel has surpassed its cloud point. Diesel Recovery liquefies gelled diesel fuel and thaws frozen fuel filters, avoiding costly towing charges and getting diesels back on the road.
Fast Fuel Recovery
Diesel applications operating in extremely cold environments face some unique challenges. As the temperature drops, wax naturally found in diesel fuel begins to form crystals. The point at which wax crystals form is known as the cloud point. These wax crystals can eventually clog the fuel filter and starve the engine of fuel, preventing it from starting or even stalling out a running engine.
AMSOIL Diesel Recovery quickly dissolves gelled fuel to allow the operator to continue driving with minimal downtime. Diesel Recovery separates the molecular bonds of wax crystals that have agglomerated in diesel fuel. It thaws frozen fuel filters and reduces the need for a new filter, saving oney and preventing an inconvenient trip to an auto parts store.
Quickly Dissolves Gelled Fuel
Thaws Frozen Fuel Filters
Performs Well in ULSD, Off-Road & Biodiesel
Alcohol-Free
Non-Corrosive
So if your filters are geled, do you have to take them off an put some of this in, or can you just dump this in the tank?

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So if your filters are geled, do you have to take them off an put some of this in, or can you just dump this in the tank?
Here is the instructions

Recommendations
One 30oz. bottle of Diesel Recovery treats 30 gallons of fuel. When encountering a gelled fuel system, AMSOIL recommends taking the following steps for maximum effectiveness:
Remove the existing fuel filter.
The filter can be reused, or a new filter can be installed.
Fill the replacement fuel filter with AMSOIL Diesel Recovery.
Install the replacement filter.
Add the remaining Diesel Recovery to the fuel tank.
Start the engine and allow the fuel system to circulate until full power has been restored.


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