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Pulling power with reliability

I pull an 18000lb 5er with my 06 f350 towboss (4:30s). I am thinking of changing to an 08 3500 dodge with 4:10 with an automatic trans. Will it pull my trailer reliably with more pulling power then my Ford and not over heat the engine or trans or high egt's. My Ford is rated to pull 18000 lb's and the Dodge 16000 lb's but I think they are under rated unless the frames are the weak link. What do you guys think.
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I pull an 18000lb 5er with my 06 f350 towboss (4:30s). I am thinking of changing to an 08 3500 dodge with 4:10 with an automatic trans. Will it pull my trailer reliably with more pulling power then my Ford and not over heat the engine or trans or high egt's. My Ford is rated to pull 18000 lb's and the Dodge 16000 lb's but I think they are under rated unless the frames are the weak link. What do you guys think.
Well you can't beat a Ford frame. But I'd trust the Engine and Transmission more in the Dodge. If you do a 3500 get the chassis and cab with the Aisin. Haven't heard much bad about either Automatic behind the 6.7 but I imagine the Aisin is built to last a few thousand miles.

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The frames on the newer dodges are fully boxed. I could be wrong but i believe the fords are c channeled.

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I agree with BIGBADDODGE that is the only difference I have seen as far as frames go. The powertrain area is a major difference, the cummins adds better mileage and better all around power.

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The frames on the newer dodges are fully boxed. I could be wrong but i believe the fords are c channeled.
I don't know either way, I can't even afford a test drive in a newer truck.


But in the past Fords just had some of the strongest frames out there.

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heavyhauler if you do end up getting the 3500 dodge you will be extremely happy with the way it pulls plus factory exhaust brake and the power diff between the 6.0 and the 6.7 stock for stock the 6.0 wont hold a candle to the 6.7 in my opinion

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I pull an 18000lb 5er with my 06 f350 towboss (4:30s). I am thinking of changing to an 08 3500 dodge with 4:10 with an automatic trans. Will it pull my trailer reliably with more pulling power then my Ford and not over heat the engine or trans or high egt's. My Ford is rated to pull 18000 lb's and the Dodge 16000 lb's but I think they are under rated unless the frames are the weak link. What do you guys think.
Rated, rated rated ya right ! I`d use my own esperience and ``head`` before looking at what is on paper! Use to have a truck 7000 lbs rated and the thing was dying and hard to drive safely with 5500lbs! One thing I know for sure is the 6.7L is way overkill for any pick-up frame so; for pulling don`t worry. Secondo I would really feel better pulling 18 000lbs with a 6.7L than anything else on the market. One safety feature that makes a huge difference when pulling real heavy loads is the exhaust brake. Towing capacity on based on frame on one side but on braking power too. I almost never use the brakes exept for the last 10 feet at a stop sign pulling 12 500 lbs and heavier you are harder the exhaust brake will work. The 6.7 has it`s full torque at 1500rpm wich makes it such a low revs engine, nice and smooth and relax to pull with!

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My experience with both.
My best buddy has a 1 ton ford with a 6.0 don't know the gears. It struggles with a 12,000 lb bumper pull toy hauler. It will tow it but not comfortably.

My 07 3500 mega W/6.7 cummins will pull that same trailer like its not there. 70 up a 6% grade is too easy.My 36' fifth wheel toy hauler weighs 13,500 empty when loaded ?? The dodge pulls it easy and the exhaust brake works great. I'm not a ford fan so I'm probably a little bias but my truck pulls better than his ford and handles the weight better hands down.
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Rated, rated rated ya right ! I`d use my own esperience and ``head`` before looking at what is on paper! Use to have a truck 7000 lbs rated and the thing was dying and hard to drive safely with 5500lbs! One thing I know for sure is the 6.7L is way overkill for any pick-up frame so; for pulling don`t worry. Secondo I would really feel better pulling 18 000lbs with a 6.7L than anything else on the market. One safety feature that makes a huge difference when pulling real heavy loads is the exhaust brake. Towing capacity on based on frame on one side but on braking power too. I almost never use the brakes exept for the last 10 feet at a stop sign pulling 12 500 lbs and heavier you are harder the exhaust brake will work. The 6.7 has it`s full torque at 1500rpm wich makes it such a low revs engine, nice and smooth and relax to pull with!
How many miles do you have on yours now?

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How many miles do you have on yours now?
Close to 30 000 miles . By the way too bad you don`t live on this side of the border....Nice truck! I would be thinking about getting it! All the 2002 and older are rusted or dead uphere and I still think there`re the best looking trucks ever!

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