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Give me opinions and info...

This should be fun...I am loking for the opinions and info from the guys that drive the trucks. Before long our road district will be looking for a new truck and I wanted to know the ups and downs of all of the new trucks. I am going to ask this from Ford, Dodge, and GM. Tell me anything you might think would be helpful in our search to find the right truck for the money. We would order a 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 ton truck regular cab, DRW, 4x4, Auto or Manual (I like the 2011 Fords with the auto/manual, but I don't know much about Dodge or GM either). The truck pull probably 10-12K everyday, plow snow during the winter, and sometimes idle all day and during the winter all night too. There have been times that they have ran for two days without being turned off. So they do get pushed a little but, but are taken very good care of mechanically and cosmetically. Which brings me to another point, maintenance on the trucks...how hard is it to work on the newer ones. Guys thanks in advance for all of what you have to offer, and I really don't want it to turn into something like don't buy dodge because I drive a Ford, I myself am a ford guy, but the 6.7 dodge's at the shop are laying the beat down to the 6.0 Fords. Not saying that I would like to see the fords take back over or anything like that I am just saying I would like to hear everyones views.

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i have had chevy( 94 model diesel before duramax), ford 02 powerstroke (7.3l) and dodge. 12v, 24v, 5.9 crd, and 08 6.7. the chevy was most comfortable. and engine i had was no problem. but not as powerful as new models and not around any more. ford likewise not around any more. but it was the most reliable of the fords. dont know much about fords newest engine. 6.7l v8. but was talking to mechanics and service foreman in locakl ford dealership. they said 7.3 good. 6.0 stay away from. and 6.4 passable. they were concerned about the aluminum heads on an iron block. stated that different expansion rate could cause problems. and if the 2011 ford iss like the 6.4's you have to remove the cab to do much work on them. the dodges i have had were all very reliable. never an engine issue. dodge isnt as comfortable as ford or chevy. i currently have 08 dodge 6.7. no problems except had to replace batteries at 50K miles. i guess my choice of dodge over chevy and ford is an inline 6 over a v8. also chevy with a japanese engine. but other than multiple problems with the 6.0 ford all seem good choices.

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The 2011 Ford does Not require cab removal to work on the engine. As far as aluminum heads on iron..... the Duramax should answer those questions, meaning it's a non issue.
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Also the block on the 6.7 ford is not iron its grafite.

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Accually Dave the block is Iron with grafite in it. Think of it as high carbon steel but for cast iron. This results in a weight savings of 150lbs for the block with an increase of 50% for strenght and rigidity.

The heads are aluminum. High heat transfer and also another 70lbs weight reduction. These head should the cats azz. Less chance of warpage of heat/stress cracking from high load applications. ie plowing. Plus more responsive driving characteristic due to the reverse flow heads and the single sequential turbo.

As for comparing dodge/chev/ford for plowing aplications. There is no denying the capabilities of the ford compaired to the other 2 manufacturers. The Ford have a tough front end by copmarison. Dodges front ends are JUNK. As for the chevs... New frame and suspension is yet to be proven dispite advertising claims.

Towing? Ford all the way. Proven frame. Great new tranny. And the new sway control makes this an easy choice.

So all in all. I would lean towards the ford regardless of the new powertrain.

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Thanks chris for the info.

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Guys this is great...this is just the stuff I was looking for.

On the hunt for a 7.3 preferably CC or Ext. Cab SB...Let me know of any deals.


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i had considered a ford but a new unproven engine and transmission both in the same truck was a little unnerving to me.

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I am going to throw in a vote for the Dodge. Not because I drive one but I used to work for a huge electrical contractor and we had a mix of Ford and Dodge 1 tons as well as alot of E-350's. Our motor pool mechanics complained about the Dodge front ends but would prefer to replace ball joints and unit bearings over work under the hood of the Fords. The Ford trucks are not immune to front end problems either as they also use unit bearing design and somewhat weak ball joints. The frame on the Dodge is without a doubt the strongest on the market and the new 68rfe trans is quite a bit stronger than the 48re.

I do believe that the Ford trans is a better than the Dodge and the 6.4's and 6.7's will definitely make a lot of power in stock form. The main problem that I would have with the new Ford is the unproven motor and how much harder they would be to service. If you pop the hood on the 2011 trucks you have to look pretty hard to actually find the motor underneath all of the accessory and emissions equiptment.

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