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rebuild it or buy new

Here is my delima. I am at a point monetarily where I can finally afford to buy a new truck. Ive read quite a few things on the 6.7 and it seems to holding up rather well. I currently have a 02 crew lariat with 238,00 on the ticker. I've had it for 9 years, rebuilt the trans twice, just upgraded the turbo, 4" exhaust, air bags and other minor things that have made it "me". I, like most of us love my truck. But the fuel mileage has gotten worse over the last couple years. The 5th wheel camper seems to be getting bigger. So my delima is I've gotten a quote from a reputable diesel performance supplier that we all know to build an engine that will give me roughly 500hp for $18,000. That's a lot of money,sure but compared to a new truck at 60 grand plus insurance and the added cost of the urea it keeps adding up. Any ideas is appreciated.
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You don't need 500hp, and if you think you do, you're kidding yourself. The new trucks with 440hp sound like they should be tire shredding beasts, but they really aren't. and while they have 440hp, it's not the same as if you build a 440hp 7.3L, it's a different kind of power. It's smooth and quiet and refined, you'll never get that from a 7.3L on a good day. The advantage of a new truck is refinement, not power.

If the trailer is too big, the truck can't pull the load, and you need a truck set up differently, then buy a newer truck, or set up your truck for the load. The problem with essentially doubling the poser generated by a 7.3, you need a transmission that is capable, you need added cooling capacity, there is more to it than building a 500hp engine. You need to regear or add an under drive or both, it's just not that simple, and what it would cost to do it right, you might as well buy a newer truck.

Better option is buy a nice used truck that's more capable, but not $60K+ like a 2008-2012 model. And don't be stubborn and try and be brand loyal, go drive a dozen trucks, set up with different options from Ford GM and Ram, you'll find that one of them will be a better fit to your needs than all the others, and that's the one you buy.

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7.3L Powerstroke, 4R100, 4x4, 3.73, 37x13.50-18s, '05 Axle Swap, 6" Fabtech lift, GTP38 "D66" turbo upgrade, SCT 4-position chip with custom tuning by me, Straight Piped 4" down pipe through 5" dual stacks, N-Fab full length triple steps, Pro-Tech cab guard and tool box, louvered 5th wheel gate, Hella 500 Fog and Driving lamps, much more to come...
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2000 Excursion XLT 4x4

6.8L V-10, 4R100, 4.30, 285/75-18, 271whp / 388wtq
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I understand your thoughts on the extra cooling and all the other things mentioned but in no way shape or form am I kidding my self. Its not that anyone ever needs more horsepower is it... It's more like they want it. Besides with the right tuning it is possible to have that kind of power and also have usable towing power. When you tow you don't use all the power anyway. I have driven all mentioned trucks under tow conditions and in my situation with my family Ford IS the only one with the room to hold us. And if I am to buy aother truck it would be a new one. I appreciate your insight.
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Trust me, I'm a Ford guy thru and thru but my buddy recently totaled his '99 250 7.3 and found a '03 Cummins 5.9 2500 mega cab 5-speed 4X4 for a good price and from personal witness, I can tell you with 5" exhaust and a moderate program, that thing will pull a house down and not break a sweat. So if I had your dilemma, that's what I'd be eyeing as an option.
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My best friend has had Ford and Chevy gas trucks up until last year when he bought a nice '03 7.3 F350 CCSB 4x4 on a 6" lift and 35s. The truck was great in every way except the way it was lifted it rode like a dump truck. We were about to fix that and drop it to a 4" lift when he found out he needed to buy a new truck for the tax write off for his business. He ran down to GMC and drive a 2500 Denali and told me it was perfect. I told him to go drive a Ram and a Ford. He said the cab on the Ram was smaller than his Ford a a short of riding a little better and a bit more power than a tuned 7.3 had. Then he finally caved and looked at a new Mega Cab, and that's what's sitting in his garage now.

I was a "Ford" guy but, I saw the light a few years back and realized I needed to take off my blinders. The fact is. There are a lot of good options out there, and if you have an open mind, you might find some are better than you think.


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The Current Truck (Oct-2013 to Present):
1999 (Early) F-350 Lariat, CCLB, SRW, Black/Tan

7.3L Powerstroke, 4R100, 4x4, 3.73, 37x13.50-18s, '05 Axle Swap, 6" Fabtech lift, GTP38 "D66" turbo upgrade, SCT 4-position chip with custom tuning by me, Straight Piped 4" down pipe through 5" dual stacks, N-Fab full length triple steps, Pro-Tech cab guard and tool box, louvered 5th wheel gate, Hella 500 Fog and Driving lamps, much more to come...
The one I'll miss, (Mar-2009 to Jan-2014):
2000 Excursion XLT 4x4

6.8L V-10, 4R100, 4.30, 285/75-18, 271whp / 388wtq
The one I won't, (Jul-2005 to Sep-2012):
2005 F-350 XLT, CCLB, SRW, 4x4 FX4

6.0L PSD, ZF-6S650, 3.73, 35x12.5-18, 4.5" Lift
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