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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 07-08-2007, 06:50 PM Thread Starter
 
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need more power

alright i put my plate in and now i want more power, i know i know about the clutch but its holding now, i will run it till its done then get a new one, so as for power im thinking the 215 injectors i got, put them in that should be another maybe 30 horse

next lets talk delivery valves, i got the 131's now, would i see an upgrade if i got 181's or should i go for 191's, can someone explain the pros and cons of both, also where are some good places to get them cheep

after that a 3gsk is in way, citydiesel.net is like $95 for the 3gsk, how easy is it to install or how much is it to have someone do it

then i want to get it timed to either 15.5 or 16, what would you guys recomend, i dont think i want to do this myself so how much do people charge to do this

so after i do all that what do you think i will be pushing for numbers out of that, and also if any of you guys are willing to do any of this stuff or can help with it, it would be much appreciated, thanks guys
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15* timing, 4k gsk, use the 215's, shave the afc lever, afc kit, rack plug, sell your 10 plate and grind a 0 plate. That should put you around 400 hp.

Then you could do delivery valves, but your turbo and clutch wont like it.
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I recommend the 4K GSK since its only a little more and your in their anywase. If you dont want to rev that high than shift before 3500 to avoid piston/valve contact.

deffinitly use the 215's.

15-16* timing, how hard it is depends on your skills and the tools you have, but its do-able.

181's are better than 131's but 191's are even better, but not a big deal.

If you already bought a plate than I would stick w/ that. I prefer controling the smoke and EGTs w/ my foot but others like to hold the pedal down. They both do the same thing, my way's just cheaper. I don't know what you prefer so its up to you if you want to keep the #10 or make a #0. If it were me i'd just keep it, the #10 is good on both ends in my opinion.

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i like the 10 and its already in there, so would 181's be an impoverment because there cheeper then 191's and i got no interest in spinning up to 4k so the 3gsk should do it right? and its cheaper, i also dont want to shave the afc arm off, the rack plug wont do me any good seing as how im not hitting it as is right? also do you think i shoudl bother haveing the 215s pop tested or just throw them in there?
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Yes the 181s are an improvement.

Like I say I like the 4k GSK for only $15 more, but the 3K will be fine. But I do hear the 94/95 pumps don't always spin to the advertised rpm so.... just a thought.

Don't worry about the rack plug or AFC arm unless you really want more power.

As for the 215's it depends on what shape the engine they came out of was in. If the engine had low miles and an easy life and they were recently pulled then just through them in. But if you can get them check quick and easy/cheap or if you suspect lots of wear or they have been sitting then check them.

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What kind of power do you want?
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im not sure what kind of power i want, but after the 10 plate i know i want more, and i want it cheaply, so most of those things are cheep, i figure all this can be done for less then 500 bucks and im not sure what I would be putting out for power
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Well, what I listed before should be well under $500.

Remember, there is no such thing as "cheap" power. Other parts on the truck will need to be replaced to accommodate the new power.
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yea the stock clutch shoudl hold on for a little bit, other then that what do i have to watch out for, also what do you think i will be putting out for numbers there
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yea the stock clutch shoudl hold on for a little bit, other then that what do i have to watch out for, also what do you think i will be putting out for numbers there
Should be 375-400 ish.

You should be ok, have gauges, exhaust, intake.

EGT's should be controllable on the street, not sure about what you tow.

You might want to put a new overflow valve on the fuel return line, and maybe a new fuel pump, depending on how many miles the truck has on it.
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