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how do these guys with the high hp vp trucks make so much hp? I'm talking about the guys that are hitting around 800+. What kind of programmers/chips are they using? What other mods do they have?

I wanna make around 500 what do i need to do? What do you think I'm at now?

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They are spraying Nitrous to make 800+hp. Ive never seen a VP44 truck make over 640 without nitrous.Mine only maked 603 without spray.Over 700 easily with spray.I dont not use nitrous anymore,I dont think it is a wise long term decision to use nitrous on a daily driver diesel that you need to tow with or use long term like you should be able to (200K+).It just puts too much pressure on the head gasket,rod bearings,and shocks the turbo/turbos when it "hits".

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Somewhere around 400-500 HP is a good ending for a streetable VP44 fueled Cummins... Good life span and low rate of damage if done right...

I'm currently right at 381/826 for power and no problems yet... Yeah I know I just small potatoes...

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What kind of programmers/chips are they using? What other mods do they have?

I wanna make around 500 what do i need to do? What do you think I'm at now?
Other than the basic bolt ons,for 500 reliable useable RWHP, you need either towing twins,or a big single,and some water to keep it cool of you plan on using the power a lot.If you do not keep it under 1500EGT ,you eventually will crack the head,and fatigue the valve springs/ruin the guides,and have a truck that smokes at idle and doesnt run its best.You can get by for a while,but it will only last so long at 1700-1800 EGT.
You can gamble here or go safe,but 500HP is a lot for the head gasket,ive seen them last 18 months at 500 hp with stock head bolts,ive seen them last 18 days,you are gambling here if you do not do head studds,and fresh gasket/have head checked for flatness.If it was mine id get it o ringed,and run ARP studds,and your done.Mine is going on 4 yrs with that setup with 67psi boost PDR twins.
you need a full trans with billet input shaft,and a billet flexplate for reliability. Still do not expect the trans to last forever,expect to need to rebuild again in 3-4 yrs maybe sooner if your abusive and drive alot.
To make the power,Id say a MITUSA fuel system,Don M mach 4s and Edge comp box is probably the most foolproof and least expensive way.

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you should run the setup that I am currently running. I run the Aurora 5000 turbo, Edge Comp, Smarty Tuner, Fass 150gph pump, 180hp injectors, Haisley Hiflow connector tubes and a built suncoast. I am somewhere in the 500 range. I ran a 12.6 1/4 mile is the best out of the truck and that is still with wieght to shed and I drive my truck everyday to work.
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Yeah but how is that Aurora 5k for towing? and can you drive that set up without smoke?
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i made 508hp with a stock vp, drag comp, stage 5(200hp) ddp sticks, quick diesel 64, head o ringed, studs, bigger connector tubes, fass 150 with 1/2 in line all the way, ats arc flow intake, stage 1 afe, 4in mbrp and southbend dual disc 3850. i got around 16mpg or better with 35's and 410 gears. as for smoke like a train on the bottom in once i got wound out just a light haze at full throttle. towing was a bit tricky drag comp turn down 1x3 pulling 15000 it would peg egts out on a hill just had to drop a gear to keep it under control. i had the smarty programmer and it actually hurt my overall hp with the smarty on level 8 i made 70hp less then the drag comp by it self.

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Yeah, towing with a bigger single and a manual trans seems like it might be easier than with a built auto. You have lower gears which helps getting things rolling without putting so much load on. The towing I've done in a modified truck with a single charger was less than pleasant. Thats why I'm trying the twins route. I'd love to not worry about my pyro.
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so, looking at these bluechip boxes seems like they'll make some real good power, my question is whether or not you can stack it with anything, the website says it can't be stacked with "mad" boxes or something like that, but they qualified it with mad so I'm not sure what that means. How much could you make with that, a hot VP, a good lp, studs, o-rings, big injectors, all the smart supporting mods and a big single, and some bigger fuel lines like what smokeyourdiesel had? Also, how unstreetable is the redline?
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