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Advice on next upgrade... one step at a time

Hello everybody,

I'm new to this form.. as a member anyways. Been reading and learning a lot from here recently. It's time for me to tap into some of the wisdom of other members.

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05 LLY, 55k mi. 2500hd short box ext. cab
Banks Intake
Magnaflow 5" downpipe back exhaust
AFE Blade Runner Turbo Inlet

My long term goal is major horsepower (550+) in a reliable daily driver. Each upgrade I purchase, I only want to purchase once. In other words, I don't want to add an aftermarket part to add power that will again need to be upgraded. Hence the bit of overkill with a 5" exhaust and no tune (yet)

So from here... where? Fuel delivery upgrade? PPE boost controller?
I want to always have the drivetrain able to support the current power I am making. Thank you in advance for the advice folks
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Would anyone recommend EFI Live? I figure since it's capable of pretty much any tune imagineable it would be well suited from 300-350 hp applications to much much higher.
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efi live is the best tuner out there imo. i have it on my truck and love it. the main concern with the hp is the stock tranny i think can support 500 hp. im not 100 percent sure tho. but id go with efi. i havent heard much about the ppe boost controler

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Efi Live is worth the money if your willing to spend the time to learn it.

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absolutely. Got to admit it's pretty intimidating at first glance. But the fact that the possibilities are almost endless is a major draw in.

Anybody have experience with Kennedy Diesel or PPE's boost controllers that work with the stock turbo? Seems like a decent low level upgrade that won't hurt a stock drivetrain.

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T-bars cranked, 275x75R16's on stock rims
Banks Intake, Magnaflow 5" downpipe-back exhaust, AFE Blade Runner Turbo Inlet; turbo resonator plugged,
BD Power exhaust manifold, Autometer Boost and EGT Gauges

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efi live is the best tuner out there imo. i have it on my truck and love it. the main concern with the hp is the stock tranny i think can support 500 hp. im not 100 percent sure tho. but id go with efi. i havent heard much about the ppe boost controler
I would only add 80-100hp before taking a look at transmission upgrades for sure. EFI Live seems like an awesome investment.

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T-bars cranked, 275x75R16's on stock rims
Banks Intake, Magnaflow 5" downpipe-back exhaust, AFE Blade Runner Turbo Inlet; turbo resonator plugged,
BD Power exhaust manifold, Autometer Boost and EGT Gauges

Merchant Marine. Well versed in 70,000+HP marine diesels.. still a student in 300-500HP diesels.
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Another question regarding a stock turbo boost controller. Any risk of damage from trying to get rid of all that extra boost? Say, after hard acceleration and quickly letting off the throttle, does the stock wastegate handle this type of situation?

05 2500HD short box ext. cab LLY
T-bars cranked, 275x75R16's on stock rims
Banks Intake, Magnaflow 5" downpipe-back exhaust, AFE Blade Runner Turbo Inlet; turbo resonator plugged,
BD Power exhaust manifold, Autometer Boost and EGT Gauges

Merchant Marine. Well versed in 70,000+HP marine diesels.. still a student in 300-500HP diesels.
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well according to kennedy diesel his boost control works best with a tuner if i remember correct. i was wanting one for mine. i did a thread on that a while back. i know there was some great advice on it

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Sounds good. It makes sense a tuner would supplement it. Added boost isn't going to help anything without more fuel.

05 2500HD short box ext. cab LLY
T-bars cranked, 275x75R16's on stock rims
Banks Intake, Magnaflow 5" downpipe-back exhaust, AFE Blade Runner Turbo Inlet; turbo resonator plugged,
BD Power exhaust manifold, Autometer Boost and EGT Gauges

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With EFI live you can control everything the turbo can do, the LLY uses a Variable Vane Turbo, or VVT, or VGT, or VNT...... in essence, on the drive(exhaust) side of the turbo instead of a set of fixed vanes that require a set amount of exhaust pressure to drive the turbo, a VGT uses a set of variable vanes that can allow the turbo to spool on very little pressure, makes for a very little turbo lag, they also do not require a waste-gate because when the turbo is making high boost, and you let off the throttle the vanes will open allowing all the boost to flow out the exhaust instead of over speeding the turbo, it creates a loud "wooshing" sound that can be a bit off putting the first time you hear it

EFI is the end all-be-all tuning for the Duramax, i suggest downloading the program off of EFI's site and play around with it, you can down load it free without the V2 flashscan, but you cant save changes to tunes, but you can get a feel for how complicated it is with fueling tables, boost tables, injection tables etc...

a PPE or suncoast transmission would be under extreme advisement, if you add more that 80-100hp you can expect to limp your transmission in a hurry

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