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upgrade to 350 GVWR... Questions?

I have a 2006 F250 Crew Cab XLT 4x4 with a 6.0L, and it has a 10,000# GVWR what would it take to up to the F350 11500# or the 13000# (not sure if thats for a dually or not) package? I am just assuming front and rear springs, but I am sure I am wrong, so if anyone could point me in a direction I would be greatly appreciative.

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legally, the gvwr cant be changed, regardless of whats done to support the additional weight

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The only real reason for increasing the actual load rating would be in a commercial application (for road use taxes/registration fees)
Legally, DOT can, and will re-rate your vehicle based on modifications you've made to increase it's capacity.

I don't know the laws in your state regarding private vehicles, but most will allow you to tag the truck for whatever you want (high or low)

Here in Indiana, most (who know) tag brand new trucks for 16,000#, which is the cut-off for the weight based tax table.
Lower than 16K and you pay tax based on the vehicle's value, over 16K it's based on registered weight.

If you're looking for the nuts-n-bolts requirements, I'd say as with earlier years, the rear springs and tire ply ratings are the only difference between a F250 and SRW-F350.
However, in most cases the only difference is the sticker on the doorjam and the extra $1000 the factory tacks on for the fender badges.

The camper package includes higher rated rear springs (and/or addition of an overload), a rear sway bar and a certification sticker.
It used to include a wiring harness (on OBS trucks) but I think they did away with that around '99.
...come to think of it, I think they did away with the sticker too (my '07 doesn't have one that I've found)

The 13K rating is for DRW only.

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From what i've seen the only differance between most of the 250's and 350's is the height of the lift block. It's been posted before (however I have not confirmed it) that the springs are the same part number. There's just more distance to the bump stops with the taller blocks.
Running gear and drive train are the same.

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From what i've seen the only differance between most of the 250's and 350's is the height of the lift block. It's been posted before (however I have not confirmed it) that the springs are the same part number. There's just more distance to the bump stops with the taller blocks.
Running gear and drive train are the same.
The block hieght is confusing, but here's what I have seen:

All F250's have 2" blocks from the factory
SRW 2WD F350's also have 2" block
SRW 4WD F350's have 4"
DRW 4WD F350's have 2"

I have seen variances on these, but no one could verify if their truck was 100% stock (previous owner could have installed different blocks)

There are definately different rated springs for the rear, as well as overload options.
I've seen SRW F350's without the overload leaf and I've seen F250's with them...go figure:shrug:

My experiences are limited to 99-04's though.

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Are the front springs different? You would think if the SRW 350 4x4 has a 4" block compared to the 250 the front springs would have to be different, as that would just not look right.

If someone could throw part numbers for the 11500# 350s 4x4 for the front and rear springs I would appreciate it.

Does the rear have the provision for the stabilizer bar if it isnt installed from factory?

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Are the front springs different? You would think if the SRW 350 4x4 has a 4" block compared to the 250 the front springs would have to be different, as that would just not look right.

If someone could throw part numbers for the 11500# 350s 4x4 for the front and rear springs I would appreciate it.

Does the rear have the provision for the stabilizer bar if it isnt installed from factory?

Thanks guys!
Actually, most don't look right with the 4" block unless you have the plow pkg front springs. That's why everyone installs leveling kits. I'll check my front springs to see if I can still read the number (mine are 6000# plow pkg springs)

Yes, you can buy the swaybar and all necessary hardware for installation from your dealer. It bolts in, pretty simple installation if I remember, only the left front frame bolt was difficult because it is wedged between the fuel tank and frame rail.

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My cousins 2005 F350 Crew Cab 4x4 Looks almost identical to mine, but he has the 11500# package and I only have the 10000# package. He doesnt have the plow package, and his looks normal. I guess I could just grab part numbers off his truck.

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There are definately different rated springs for the rear, as well as overload options.
I've seen SRW F350's without the overload leaf and I've seen F250's with them...go figure:shrug:
I thought all 350's came standard with overloads

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I thought all 350's came standard with overloads
So did I, until I saw one without them.

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