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Does your 06 have really soft paint? We have a dark red one and the paint seems to swirl and scuff off really easy. Does anyone else have this problem?
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I do and I make car paint.

Can you take your fingernail and leave an indention in it when its out in the sunlight?

What do you mean by scuff off? Does color come off on a towel or wax applicator?
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The paint might not be 100 percent cured all the way yet....give it a little time and put a good coat of filler wax on it and see what happens.

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I do and I make car paint.

Can you take your fingernail and leave an indention in it when its out in the sunlight?

What do you mean by scuff off? Does color come off on a towel or wax applicator?
No the color doesn't come off, it just scratches really easy, we haven't even ran it through any bushes and theres lots of deep swirl marks in it. And the truck is 4months old, wouldn't the paint be cured by now? I always wash it by washing out the mitt every time and only using the clean mitt over a lit bit of paint.
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No the color doesn't come off, it just scratches really easy, we haven't even ran it through any bushes and theres lots of deep swirl marks in it. And the truck is 4months old, wouldn't the paint be cured by now? I always wash it by washing out the mitt every time and only using the clean mitt over a lit bit of paint.

The way the OEM's high temp bake these things it would be 100% cured in a week or less. In theory a typical body shop coating is 100% cured in 30 days even if it's baked but the process is not apples to apples compared to OEM.

The deep swirls (its sounds like you didn't put them there) are a result of high speed buffing either at the plant or at the dealer. When did you first notice the swirls? Usually when something is high speed buffed half-arse the tech finishes with a polish/hand glaze that's loaded with petroleum distillates (silicone) because the fastest way to make something shine and fill swirls is dump a bottle of a petroleum product on it.

The problem is oils 'flash off' once the substrate reaches 110F or more or once you wash it with a strong car wash concentrate.

Swirl marks are the equivalent of very fine sand scratches in the top coat and usually the best way to get rid of them is to start over again with a rubbing compound then switch to a polish (and somebody that knows how to use a buffer).

A detail shop is the worst place to look for permanent swirl removal because everything they have is loaded with oil while a quality body shop is the best because they can't use very oily products around paint because the mere presence of silicones in the shop can cause fish eyes in a paint job.
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Its not the swirls much but how easy it was scratched to even far enough i'm not sure if buffing it would take it out. We haven't hit anything or ran it through any bushes, it seems like it must have come from washing but we wash it so well it just seems like the paint scratched so easily.
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I know what you mean the paint has "spider webbed" , i used some Meguiar's NXT wax on my truck the other day by hand and it came out really nice, sounds like you need your truck buffed, best to bring it to someone who knows what theyre doing seeing as the clearcoat on our trucks is very thin...some "Perfect It II" is what i would use if youre going to do it yourself.
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If you have a body shop in town you trust take it to them for an opinion because it's hard to diagnose it without seeing it. It should not scratch easily, should be 100% cured by now and the 3 Powerstrokes I had all had rock hard clear on it.

As stated the clear is pretty thin compared to what the automotive aftermarket produces. If I recall every SD hood I had dry mil'd between 4.2-4.6 mils with an electronic mil gauge.
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Yea my 02' has pretty hard clear on it too. This is BS, is there any warranty on this or are we pretty much alone?
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Yea my 02' has pretty hard clear on it too. This is BS, is there any warranty on this or are we pretty much alone?
I *think* the official paint warranty is something like 12mo/12K but I've seen repairs made well beyond that.

Lets assume it has a bad clear coat on it.

Best case it needs an entire scuffing and new clear coat applied.

Worst case the old clear needs to come off and the truck still gets repainted.

Either way that's a major job that is almost always detectable and this means diminished value at trade time.

If it needs an entire repainting of any type I would not allow it and demand a replacement. Period. Without seeing it I can only determine so much that's why I say go to a know quality shop and get an assessment in writing. Then go to Ford.

Letís hope it doesn't.
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