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Thumbs down Cryo Rotors / Hawk Pads

I put the Cryo treated Slotted Rotors and Hawk Pads on my truck all the way around almost 3 years ago after reading some many good things. My stock breaks were warped and pulsing. It wasn't bad, but enough that I wanted to fix it and figured that I would upgrade. I had good luck initially, however after 6 months to a year they began to pulse. I checked everything and there were no issues. They progressively got worse; warped with a lot of shaking and pulsing. I contacted the vendor that I bought them from in the spring of '09 and at 1.5 years and maybe 15,000 miles tops and they informed me that the manufacture wouldn't do anything for me as they could have warped due to other issues, calipers, etc.

I tried to deal with them as long as I could due to buying a house, other issues, etc., but finally got to the point I had to do something. I talked to a buddy of mine who works at a Ford shop and he said that he could turn them for me and we could go from there.

Friday after work I began to pull them off. I was utterly disgusted with what I saw. As soon as I pulled the wheel off I could see that the rotors were pitted and delaminating. After I pulled the calipers and brackets off I finished pulling the rotors off and found that the inside surfaces were worse yet. They were severely pitted, grooved, and delaminating. They couldn't be turned and saved.

I checked the calipers over and they were fine. I put new Ford Rotors and Pads on today along with a brake fluid change and was amazed. This truck hasn't stopped this good since new, possibly better? The Ford Pads came with new springs and stainless steel clips for the pads to slide in. I pulled the slide pins, cleaned them, and lubed them with brake lube. I made sure to lube the stainless steel clips with the lube as well. I dis some easy stops and bed them in nicely.

I wish I had just put the Ford Rotors and Pads on when I did them back in '07. They were just a slight bit more than aftermarket and are working great. I just want to share my experiences and hopefully save someone else from this costly mistake. I don't know if it is just me or the weather around here, but these brakes were not worth the time, money, or aggravation.

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Don't need no stink'n pictures .....

Just from the description I can tell you are in salt country. More likely some of those new eco-friendly chloride areas.

It doesn't matter what brand of rotors you put on, they are going to get eaten. So the best monetary way of handling it is the path you chose. You probably got the Motorcraft rotors and pads, which while not OE are a very good choice not only for the quality of the rotor but for a more effective and rotor abrasive (truing) friction material.

The best way of ensuring the rotors have best chance of not developing pulsation is to index them for minimum runout when bolted down on the hubs. Your Ford friend should have the dial indicator to do that.

As far as the corrosion issue, the best thing to do is to wash down the rotors and at the pads rubbing surfaces as best you can through the wheels when it's feasible during the winter. Those new de-icers do not wash away as easily as the older salt did.

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I didn't bother with pictures as they got worse looking as I pounded them off. The environment around here with the ice treatments bonded them to the hub, even with anti-seize. I made sure to put it on the hub and inside the Rotors as well. I agree that the new treatment materials are hell on all metals. We can get several feet of snow and year along with ice and as cold as -30. They make sure those roads are bare, one way or another.

On another note, I give Ford and their supplier credit. These new Rotors were balanced when machined. It was evident on the Rotor, something I have never seen on the aftermarket pieces.

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Chris,

Ford is stringent on the specs for their aftermarket parts, more in line with OE standards then aftermarket. The rotors are made by Federal-Mogul, and while F-M also sells in the aftermarket as Wagner, the Motorcraft parts are made to a higher standard. Good eyes for noticing that.

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I agree with Chris my hawk pads and cyro rotors, are crap. A complete waste of money. My pad only last about 10kmiles and left a groove in my rotors, and the rotor didnt hold up as they should my stock ford pads and rotors lasted over 85kmiles and in 10kmiles these are garbage.

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Glad to hear that I was correct in my observations! So far so good. Chris

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Good info, very helpful to the other owners here. How much are the rotors and pads from Ford?
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I walked out with the set for $300.

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