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What GALE BANKS THINKS OF THE DURMAX

On GMs 6.6-liter Duramax V-8:

"This is a tried-and-true engine block, with several generations of improvement behind it, without any of the tricky design strategies to make it work. ... I like the fact that the exhaust ports are where God intended them to be. Traditionally designed engines are always going to be the best engines for gearheads like me. I like that the D-Max designers have had four generations to improve this engine, making it lighter, more fuel efficient and more powerful at each step along the way. Im an advocate of high-speed diesel, thats where we need to go, where we can back off the engine torque to save transmissions and keep the horsepower running strong. If we do that, well have a better shot of meeting the CARB regulations, increasing durability, and getting the powertrains into more passenger vehicles."

Its clear that Banks Engineering sees that the Duramax engine, built in Moraine, Ohio, is where his company will continue to spend its R&D dollars; however, only time will tell if the Duramax will have the legs to survive as Ford gets more time and a few more generations under its belt with its new Power Stroke. And were hearing Cummins is due for a significant overhaul as well (depending on how you slice it, the B-motor goes back almost 35 years). For now, it looks like the Duramax could be the HD turbo-diesel engine the aftermarket partners with the most that is, if Gale Banks has his way.

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lets lower the torque of the diesel.....gale banks

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That is why I will not fund his company... Oh no I need to spend more for my R&D for a new motor design my old stuff cant be tweeked for it.... Next he will say a remote location far from the motor will give better results for the turbo. That its just too hot.

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I especially enjoy reading all the comments and responses from idiots with 1% of his knowledge about diesels second guessing his professional and from what I can see, somewhat accurate assessment..

I said myself that the Ford has some serious issues with power train efficiency if 400/800 loses that badly to a 397/765 ... The Allison alone might be reason why the GM smoked the Ford so badly.

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Wouldn't buy banks stuff personally. I find Gale Banks full of hot air.

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lets lower the torque of the diesel.....gale banks
He's refferring to torque management where the engines power is reduced during the shift to reduce clutch slippage which leads to al onger trans life and getting more HP down without having to overbuild the trans to hold on the shifts. Most all auto trans that slip, will slip during the shift. So by utilizing torque management, you can cut the power during the shift which will only have a minimal effect on performance, and utilize a more efficient trans to do the same job. Maybe some of this voodoo is why GM beat the FORD by such a large margin in the recent DP tow test.

And I'm not plugging for BANKS either as I feel even though he makes some good stuff, it is WAY overpriced.

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He specifically said high speed diesel, which I think is running diesels at high rpm so they are producing less torque, but I could be wrong.

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"I’m an advocate of high-speed diesel, that’s where we need to go, where we can back off the engine torque to save transmissions and keep the horsepower running strong. If we do that, we’ll have a better shot of meeting the CARB regulations, increasing durability, and getting the powertrains into more passenger vehicles."

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lets lower the torque of the diesel.....gale banks
What GB is saying is that diesels need to have more HP and less TQ so smaller package drivetrains will survive in passenger vehicles i.e. CARS

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I especially enjoy reading all the comments and responses from idiots with 1% of his knowledge about diesels second guessing his professional and from what I can see, somewhat accurate assessment..

I said myself that the Ford has some serious issues with power train efficiency if 400/800 loses that badly to a 397/765 ... The Allison alone might be reason why the GM smoked the Ford so badly.
That IS the reason. I don't know about the newest version of the torqueslip, but the older version didn't lock up near as many gears as the Ally.
My idea of a strong automatic is one that locks up as many gears as possible, not the old "slush box" style with converter not locking in all gears except the top o/d gear.

Screw flywheel HP. Give me power to the rear wheels. Flywheel HP is for kids that want to brag about their dad's trucks or brochure racers.

If the newer Ford/torqslip does lock up more gears and still got beat by the GM/Ally, then Ford has even bigger problems.
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