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'71 Peterbilt repower. 3406c mech for the 1693

Just getting started on the repowering of a 1971 Peterbilt. It's original 1693TA began leaking coolant into the oil, sustained a cracked head and six bad pistons on the top side alone. The plan is to perform some various general upgrades and repairs on the tractor while removing both engines. 3406c rebuilder yet to be determined. Perhaps a vocational school HS class that would, presumably follow thread and benefit immeasureably watching the truly fine mechanics that contribute their expertise at 'TheDieselGarage.com. The 1693 Caterpillar will be saved and eventually rebuilt as well. Photos of the '71, the donar with swap engine pics will follow shortly.

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NUMBERS for the RECORD

'71 Peterbilt VIN 3 7 8 8 1
3406C Serial No: 3ZJ 3 1 8 3 8
Catapillar Build Sheet (SIS)
Standard 425 with the bigger guts and advance...
Serial Number: 3ZJ31838
Sales Model: 3406
Built: 1992-11-09
Plant: 40
Test Date: 1992-11-09
Shipped: 1992-11-16
Tested: BB
Test Number: 01
Cell Number: 11

Engine Test Cell Results
Description Reset Test Results Specification Values

Specification Number 2T-5173 2T-5173

Arrangement Number 6I-3474 6I-3474

Corr FL Power 314.8 kW 311.0 kW

Speed 2002 RPM 2000 RPM

COR FL F RAT 1101.2 G/min 1083.0 G/min

CSFC 209.9 G/kW.H 207.9 G/kW.H

Adj Boost 135.7 kPa 130.3 kPa

Fuel Pressure 272 kPa 270 kPa

Oil Pressure 448 kPa 429 kPa

TQ Cor F RAT 933.0 G/min 0.0 G/min

TQ CK CSFC 0.0 G/kW.H 0.0 G/kW.H

TQ CK Adj Bst 0.0 kPa 0.0 kPa

Torq CK Speed 1202 RPM 1200 RPM

TQ CK Tor TQ 2107 N.m 2083 N.m

LI Speed 705 RPM 700 RPM

LI Oil Press 249 kPa 217 kPa

Hi Speed 2209 RPM 2209 RPM

Response Time 0.0 SEC 0.0 SEC

FL ST F SET 0.00 mm 3.55 mm

FT ST F SET 0.00 mm 0.00 mm

Timing BTDC 0.00 DEG 0.00 DEG

FLS(Intercept) 0 0

FTS(Slope) 0 0
Complete Performance

(Grab all the tubing, upper and lower hoses, whole rad, ATAAC and mounts, and everything on the motor, including starter wires clear to the battery box and throttle linkage. Sad part is for another $1500 I can do the same in or out of frame to the 93 [but minus 1.5mpg which is the payment for the build in two years])

1693 TA Caterpilllar Serial No: 65 B 1639
Replacement head: 9s5545
4N6765
Remanufactured 0R0824 or
0R2089UTN

1693 arrangement No: undetermined
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Gentlemen: I was surprised to discover brand new, 3406c mechanical Caterpillar diesel engines manufactured in 2008 for sales off shore only. (export). I was more surprised to see the asking price of $44,000 and an additional $1500 if buyer wants a transmission oil cooler added. See:
http://www.impcorporation.com/Invent...&Featured=True

Two questions come to mind:
1. How technilogically similar is this $44,000 engine to the 1993 mechanical 3406c I acquired last week?
2. Should I be installing a transmission oil cooler on my 3406c or does it have one already? See pics below. And thank you.

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Spec Xref [3ZJ31838] July 01, 2010

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Prefix Test
Spec Sales
Model Eng hp CB AS AC Speed Rating Ap Type
3ZJ 2T5173 3406C 425 DI TA AAAC 2,000 TR MR OWS

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All Arrangment numbers for data for this test spec... Arrangement Arrangement Arrangement Arrangement Arrangement
4P1220 4P1221 4P1222 4P1223 4P1224
4P9270 4P9284 4P9285 4P9286 4P9287
4P9288 4P9289 4P9290 6I0102 6I0103
6I0462 6I0480 6I0833 6I1596 6I1764
6I2038 6I2039 6I3462 6I3463 6I3472
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Community College - Technical School has had my 3406c 3zj Caterpillar for 2.5 weeks and not a word from them. A team of six students working 3hours on Tuesday and Thursday afternoons should be making some progress.
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Are any readers familiar with an aftermarket head gasket for the 3406c Caterpillars? Perhaps manufactured by Pittsburg Power or distributed by them at one time. I thought I had read someplace or been told that it is superior to genuine Cat head gaskets (OEM).

Anyone know it's name and whether it is better than Cat? Thank you. RD
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1971 359 subject vehicle with US Capitol in the distant background.
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1993 Cat 3406c engines (at least the one I'm having majored/out of frame) had one piece aluminum pistons. Cat no longer supplies this part substitutuing a two piece steel top piston in it's place. Aftermarket supplier www.IPDParts.com can supply duplicate 1 piece aluminum pistons like my engine's former owner got 800,000 miles out of. CAUTION: If you ever re-piston your 3406 mechanical and are going with Cat Parts you will want to read and understand Cat Notice Number REHS3836. It specifies that with the steel piston you must also install the correct engine oil pump and Piston Cooling jet to avert catastrophic engine damage. I'll try and post the notification herewith.
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