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intermittent electrical issue

Its happened a couple of times now.... After a restart my lower center stack switches are dead. No EB, tow/haul switch, vented or heated switches are dead.Just the tire pressure switch is powered and the backup warning switch is lit up. On vacation now along coast/mountains and noticed it when I went to turn on the EB and it wouldn't turn on. Luckliy I wasn't towing the 5th wheel at the time. I was able to make it work again after I stopped and then restarted the pickup, sometimes it takes a couple of tries ,then it all works fine. Now I just got to double check its working before I head home with the 5er, some 6 and 7% grades with 20-30 mph curves. Hate to drive it without the EB in these conditions.

Anybody heard or experienced this?

probably one of those issues a dealer (still under warranty) won't find unless its acting up when they have it

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First I have heard with this Mike, you get it to the dealer yet?

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First I have heard with this Mike, you get it to the dealer yet?
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I will call dealer when I get back. I just won't move with the 5th wheel unless I'm sure the EB is working. No codes are showing up as i carry my scanner with me on trips.

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Also 1st tow with 5th wheel with long steeper grades and running in 2nd or 3rd gears because of corners. Definitely need to get a mag hytec pan on trans before summer heat. Trans temp peaked at 197, water temp 207 and engine oil temp 217 on the grades.
So far def is being used at about 1100 miles per gal of def.
Peak turbo boost seems to be normally 27psi, but have seen up to 29 momentarily.

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--08 36' Jazz 5th wheel,triple slide, 12,000lbs
--28' 22,400# PJ goosneck beaver tail trailer
--95 & 96 5.9CTD 4x4 5sp. ext. cab. 33x12.50x16 front, 33x15.50x16 rear tires. R-1 tread, wheelbase shortened 30". Used as tugs on farm
--81 IH 1800, DT466 210hp, 10 speed,
--95 FL70, 8.3 cummins 275hp, 10speed
--79 GMC 7000, DD 6V53 210 hp, 6sp ally
-- A whole bunch farm equipment, all colors
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I too was thinking about the Mag-Hytech, but Ill get her ride until the first service.. Mike your gonna get away from in miles as I have been the Rubicon damn cold weather and snow!

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I too was thinking about the Mag-Hytech, but Ill get her ride until the first service.. Mike your gonna get away from in miles as I have been the Rubicon damn cold weather and snow!
I'll probably let it go till spring or when I change the oil, Probably add on the Sonnax line pressure booster then to. One thing I have noticed is the down shifting in tow haul mode is much smoother then the 07.5 even with the EB on.

In 3.5 months, sitting at 8,7xx miles right now.

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--08 36' Jazz 5th wheel,triple slide, 12,000lbs
--28' 22,400# PJ goosneck beaver tail trailer
--95 & 96 5.9CTD 4x4 5sp. ext. cab. 33x12.50x16 front, 33x15.50x16 rear tires. R-1 tread, wheelbase shortened 30". Used as tugs on farm
--81 IH 1800, DT466 210hp, 10 speed,
--95 FL70, 8.3 cummins 275hp, 10speed
--79 GMC 7000, DD 6V53 210 hp, 6sp ally
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Made it home today, everything worked fine, electric power to switches never did go off.

On a side note I was watching the turbo boost pressure as there is a couple of 8% grades on 299w, one is 3 miles long. Seems there are 2 peaks in the boost. 1st one occurs at 1900 rpm and it hits 29 psi then it immediately drops 1, 2 psi to 27. Seems to stay there and as rpm's climb to 2900, there it peaks at 30 psi. It looked like it was holding but I had to back off on throttle for a corner. This was towing the 5th wheel locked in 3rd gear. The base of this climb has a 25 mph corner almost right at the start of the grade, then its pedal to the floor going up the 8%.

I wonder what Ford and Duramax boost curve looks like just for comparison?

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--07 6.7CTD 2500 4x4, Quad Cab, Big Horn Pkg. 3.73, airbags, 6sp auto, with Mag-Hytec deep pan.- sold but not forgotten.
--08 36' Jazz 5th wheel,triple slide, 12,000lbs
--28' 22,400# PJ goosneck beaver tail trailer
--95 & 96 5.9CTD 4x4 5sp. ext. cab. 33x12.50x16 front, 33x15.50x16 rear tires. R-1 tread, wheelbase shortened 30". Used as tugs on farm
--81 IH 1800, DT466 210hp, 10 speed,
--95 FL70, 8.3 cummins 275hp, 10speed
--79 GMC 7000, DD 6V53 210 hp, 6sp ally
-- A whole bunch farm equipment, all colors
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The electrical issue I mentioned in the first post happened again today, 1st time in months. Happened to be in town close to the dealer when it happened again. Went to the dealer drove it into the shop and did not stop the engine while service write up took place. They took it in and hooked up diagnostics to read for codes, and this is without an appointment. Told me they need to replace the whole lower center console switch bank. Parts are ordered and will have to go back in.

There are also 3 or 4 RRT's recalls/updates that they will also do.

Surprisingly service jumped right on it even though I did not buy the truck there (my 07.5 did though) and did not have an appointment. Will updated after its completed.

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--07 6.7CTD 2500 4x4, Quad Cab, Big Horn Pkg. 3.73, airbags, 6sp auto, with Mag-Hytec deep pan.- sold but not forgotten.
--08 36' Jazz 5th wheel,triple slide, 12,000lbs
--28' 22,400# PJ goosneck beaver tail trailer
--95 & 96 5.9CTD 4x4 5sp. ext. cab. 33x12.50x16 front, 33x15.50x16 rear tires. R-1 tread, wheelbase shortened 30". Used as tugs on farm
--81 IH 1800, DT466 210hp, 10 speed,
--95 FL70, 8.3 cummins 275hp, 10speed
--79 GMC 7000, DD 6V53 210 hp, 6sp ally
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Hopefully its nothing Mike!, but if it is I hope they take good care of you!, Put some miles o on the 12 towing the 5er this past week! She tows like a champ!, i keep looking for a reason to delete her.... I can't Find ONE!

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Update

Time for an update:

2 weeks ago had the lower center console switches replaced. So far they have been working, but it was very intermitant before. Dealer also did 3 RRT's (updates on various computer programs). One was for the antenna for Satelite radio and GPS. When I left the dealer all was well. Later that day the satelite radio quit working(screen said antenna not connected) and GPS map was 150 miles off from my current location (wish I was there where it said I was).

Took it in to dealer told them I could wait for a short while or needed a ride to an appointment I had. They said they will check it out right away. Short time later they said they are ordering a complete new radio, 8.4" screen and computer that controls all that. Apparantly they have had to replace a few already. They were very cool about it and that instead of trying to fix it, stall or... just replace the whole thing under warranty.

Other then this issue the truck has been great, Have over 19,000 miles on it and I think its fully broke in as my mpg has up 1-2mpg of earlier, running in the 17-19 mpg range.

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--07 6.7CTD 2500 4x4, Quad Cab, Big Horn Pkg. 3.73, airbags, 6sp auto, with Mag-Hytec deep pan.- sold but not forgotten.
--08 36' Jazz 5th wheel,triple slide, 12,000lbs
--28' 22,400# PJ goosneck beaver tail trailer
--95 & 96 5.9CTD 4x4 5sp. ext. cab. 33x12.50x16 front, 33x15.50x16 rear tires. R-1 tread, wheelbase shortened 30". Used as tugs on farm
--81 IH 1800, DT466 210hp, 10 speed,
--95 FL70, 8.3 cummins 275hp, 10speed
--79 GMC 7000, DD 6V53 210 hp, 6sp ally
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I'm lost

Well got the whole radio/gps/screen replaced and I think I'm lost! The GPS says I am in San Antonio Texas, just a bit off from N. CA Anybody near by
Anyways the tech person at the dealer couldn't get to work, its the first time he has had this problem and he has changed a few. It has latest updates but......? Took the truck home while he researches it higher up the chain. Maybe time to ask for an extended warranty chassis.

As a sidenote with over 20k miles it seems the Cummins seems to be fully broke in as I am getting 18-19 mpg vs. 16-17 I was getting before.

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--07 6.7CTD 2500 4x4, Quad Cab, Big Horn Pkg. 3.73, airbags, 6sp auto, with Mag-Hytec deep pan.- sold but not forgotten.
--08 36' Jazz 5th wheel,triple slide, 12,000lbs
--28' 22,400# PJ goosneck beaver tail trailer
--95 & 96 5.9CTD 4x4 5sp. ext. cab. 33x12.50x16 front, 33x15.50x16 rear tires. R-1 tread, wheelbase shortened 30". Used as tugs on farm
--81 IH 1800, DT466 210hp, 10 speed,
--95 FL70, 8.3 cummins 275hp, 10speed
--79 GMC 7000, DD 6V53 210 hp, 6sp ally
-- A whole bunch farm equipment, all colors
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