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Today at 9200+ miles my fuel filter life guage hit 0%, and 470 gallons used. I know the 470 is not right as thats over 19.5 mpg. Anyways I thought I would change it as I had one on the shelf from my 07.5. Pulled it out and saw it was different, but the filter looked pretty clean.

Found out that Wix/NAPA doesn't cross over to the new filter yet. So I went to the dealer and it turns out they have never yet sold a filter for the 2013 and no surrounding dealers has one in stock and it will take a couple of weeks to get one. So I put the old one back in.

To be fair I do have filters/water seperators on my fuel tanks so the fuel is clean (Also I never got one drop of water out the water seperator in the 170,000 miles I had the 07.5) and thats why I think the filter in the picture looks pretty clean. I can usually get double to triple the life on fuel filters over the recommended life on the equipment on the ranch.
Does anyone know if the filter life moniter is based on gallons runned through or pressure differential??
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For what it is worth, I changed mine at 12,851 and it looked just a bit worse than that, but not really dirty.. I would have to see how many gal of fuel it was as at the last fill up i was at 972.75 gal. I get my filters from Geno's Garage.

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For what it is worth, I changed mine at 12,851 and it looked just a bit worse than that, but not really dirty.. I would have to see how many gal of fuel it was as at the last fill up i was at 972.75 gal. I get my filters from Geno's Garage.
They went to a smaller micron rated filter in 2013 and since there is a filter monitor, sort of like the oil change monitor I didn't want to take any chances. But seeing how clean it was, l'm not worried now. I went as much as 60,000 miles on the 07.5.

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On my own trucks I change them every three years no matter the miles. My fuel comes from one supplier only so not really a problem to trace. I've never had problems but moisture does accumulate from condensate attributed to temperature/humidity changes.

I always thought it was piss poor of the OEM's for light trucks to not incorporate a low sump or any type of drain into a pickup's fuel tank. They must think a small diesel powered truck won't/can't have the same fuel problems a large one does? Of course a nickel matters in their application.

The question I seek an answer for is simply; why, or why not?
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On my own trucks I change them every three years no matter the miles. My fuel comes from one supplier only so not really a problem to trace. I've never had problems but moisture does accumulate from condensate attributed to temperature/humidity changes.

I always thought it was piss poor of the OEM's for light trucks to not incorporate a low sump or any type of drain into a pickup's fuel tank. They must think a small diesel powered truck won't/can't have the same fuel problems a large one does? Of course a nickel matters in their application.
An f-150 is built every 60 seconds. (Just as example I know it's not a diesel light truck) - Nickel a minute. Plus the guys on this forum are the exception the mass amount of 'em out there just drive till they break - thus the wave of non-serviceable parts. Don't be surprised when you see non serviceable gear boxes some day. Assembly and bolts cost money.

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Today at 9200+ miles my fuel filter life guage hit 0%, and 470 gallons used. I know the 470 is not right as thats over 19.5 mpg. Anyways I thought I would change it as I had one on the shelf from my 07.5. Pulled it out and saw it was different, but the filter looked pretty clean.

Found out that Wix/NAPA doesn't cross over to the new filter yet. So I went to the dealer and it turns out they have never yet sold a filter for the 2013 and no surrounding dealers has one in stock and it will take a couple of weeks to get one. So I put the old one back in.

To be fair I do have filters/water seperators on my fuel tanks so the fuel is clean (Also I never got one drop of water out the water seperator in the 170,000 miles I had the 07.5) and thats why I think the filter in the picture looks pretty clean. I can usually get double to triple the life on fuel filters over the recommended life on the equipment on the ranch.
Does anyone know if the filter life moniter is based on gallons runned through or pressure differential??
I would guess it's shooting for 10,000 mile interval knowing people don't change them as soon as the light comes on. Reset and see if 80% is at 11,200.

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Does anyone know if the filter life moniter is based on gallons runned through or pressure differential??
Based on my personal observations (truck is at 39k miles) the monitor is tied in as a percentage of miles based on a 15k service interval.
Did you order the rear separator as well???

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Based on my personal observations (truck is at 39k miles) the monitor is tied in as a percentage of miles based on a 15k service interval.
Did you order the rear separator as well???
No I did not since I have seperator/filters on my bulk tanks. And I rarely have to purchase diesel on the road.
I'm now at 12k+ miles without changing the filter (Neel am I catching up yet) now and still happy. Getting 17-20 mpg dependingon driving, 10-11 towing 5th wheel. On the farm/local driving I get better mpg then dad gets on his Tundra V6 , 2 wheel drive!

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No I did not since I have seperator/filters on my bulk tanks. And I rarely have to purchase diesel on the road.
You might want to give some consideration to the rear separator replacement, as it's specified for replacement every 15k miles (just like the underhood filter).

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Your getting there Mike... my 12 has been sitting for about the last 3 weeks.. Rockin the Rubicon.... Im at 145xx..

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