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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 08-23-2007, 02:07 PM Thread Starter
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winter and biodiesel

when it is 90 degrees out it is hard to ponder however it is gonna get real cold real fast.
I just read an article in last months playboy about greasecars and it brought about a question that I am wondering if anyone can answer.
In these kits that you buy they basically run a reserve tank with a switch between tanks. they start and heat the engine up with petro then switch to veg then clean the system with petro during cooldown.
From what i have gotten biodiesel thickens right up in the cold. Could you heat the motor conventionally and switch over to bio? has anyone ever experimented with a reserve tank of bio with a block heater on it? Winter hear gets cold and it is coming soon(3mths)
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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 08-23-2007, 02:25 PM
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Most places, and people, run a blend during the winter. I run B50 (50% petro/50% bio) during the coldest part of the winter.

During the winter I have heard of people running BioD in the Veg. Oil systems because of the heaters.

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I know about mixing the petro and bio I was just wondering about heating the bio to keep it from thickening(basically taking the reliance on petro out of the mix)
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Sure, you can definitely do that. I have done it a couple of times during winter when my Veg. Oil supply got low and I had to buy B100. My SVO system doesn't have a block heater, but it has a coolant filled heat exchanger. in my 2nd tank.

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I just read an article in last months playboy
There are articles? :shrug:


How would you heat the bioD during the day?

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yeah believe it or not there are articles in playboy I pretty much had to make it to my thirties before I realized all that filler paper around the fun stuff had writing on it(go figure):evil
cooler lines in the bottom of the tank??? hows it done?
As far as what to do during the day to keep my block heater idea thought about a deepcycle battery in the bed for when i am not home to plug it in.
Am i the only one who has pondered this?:shrug:
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Four inch foam insulation around the tank.
Plastic tubing for connections with insulation.
Insulation for the coolant lines to conserve heat for the heat exchanger.
A submersion heater and a gen set for when it stays cold. or
A fuel fired coolant heater with a pump to warm all - engine,tank....
Adding propane injection at a catalyst level to improve the low temp combustion in cold block with min. temp fuel

If you use a gen set to heat the fuel, add a battery charger to warm the battery while in the wait to start mode.

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I just want to throw this in, waste veggie oil is not Bio! Biodiesel is a processed and thoroughly cleaned WVO, or SVO. Just trying to keep the confusion down about the differance of Bio and WVO.

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don't know if I confused anybody if so sorry. I am trying to figure out a way to avoid having to mix bio and petro. waste oil uses a seperate tank setup and that was the example i was using to possibly rig the second tank with a heating system to avoid gelling
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