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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 08-30-2007, 11:51 PM Thread Starter
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Fuel additives study

I know it is from another site, but there is a independant study of fuel lubricant on the Diesel Place. Pretty interesting stuff. B2 bio tested best out of all the lubricants that could be added to fuel to include the almighty 2 cycle oil that everyone touts all the time. It is in the fuel and lubricants section and can be read by anyone. Goes to show the good that Bio can do.

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Not trying to stir up anything here, but I think we are going to see some of these additives move to the side for B2 up to B5. Especially since most states are considering the sale of B2 in all pumps! I think we would then see a dramatic drop in additives sales, as they would not be needed except in the winter to battle gelling issues. But, here in IN when it dropped in the negatives for almost a month, my trucks ran great on B20 the entire time. Not one of the 7 in the fleet gelled and neither did my Chevy, which I had fueled with B20 the night before it dropped. (I didnt watch the news that night, stupid me)

Any thoughts? (on the test, not my personal stupidity. I get enough opinions from my family, thank you!)

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If I could find B2 for the same price as #2 it would be a no brainer, even with the loss in fuel mileage. I'll check my mileage after this tank of 2-stroke/#2 and try a tank of B2.

I really don't care about mileage, I have a Toyota for that.

I'm sure the Bio companies have anti-gel additives for their products (especially in the northern states)

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444, I ran B20 during that cold snap here back in Feb, and had 0 issues with my personal and work trucks. I did change to B2 after the end of the first week. I still have yet to have noticed a mileage decrease with B2, now with B20 I drop maybe a little over a half a mile. But the lubrication properties of Bio are outstanding, now it is a must in our trucks. If only I could find it easily on the road outside of my usual work area.

When I drove to Bowling Green, KY I had to use #2, and my engine made niose something horrible, dont know what was wrong but this 444e does not like ULSD, loves the B2 like a child to candy. Stays quiet all day long.

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Interesting post...

There was several complaints about gelling few years ago in MN. The Bio was separating from the dino diesel and going to the bottom of the tank and gellin' up. The people I was talking to in MN had to heat there fuel tanks to get the gell mess to move. All the over the counter anti-gel DID NOT TOUCH IT!. These products at the time were not designed to cut BIO DIESEL.

I think a bunch where cutting even more with Kerosene but I'm not sure now...

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I didn't think the standard anti-gel additives were formulated for use with Bio, I wonder if that's what caused the separation and settling :shrug:

I can't imagine any way for Bio to just "un-disolve" itself and settle to the bottom of a diesel tank without some other chemical intervention.

I don't have a clue what they are using to prevent gelling in Bio, but I bet I can find out! We have a corporate account at the Coop where I buy fuel.

I'll make some calls today or tomorrow, when I get time. (I'm the Routing Supervisor for our 40+ trucks)

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I didn't think the standard anti-gel additives were formulated for use with Bio, I wonder if that's what caused the separation and settling :shrug:

I can't imagine any way for Bio to just "un-disolve" itself and settle to the bottom of a diesel tank without some other chemical intervention.

I don't have a clue what they are using to prevent gelling in Bio, but I bet I can find out! We have a corporate account at the Coop where I buy fuel.

I'll make some calls today or tomorrow, when I get time. (I'm the Routing Supervisor for our 40+ trucks)
Well this is what I've been told from a few in MN. As for actually hard proof... I've never even had a shot at running BIO diesel yet since its still a long ways from me...

But its getting closer... A station about 70 miles from me just started selling B2 in all diesel now...

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What part of armpit America are you in exactly?

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What part of armpit America are you in exactly?
My mailing address is New Meadows, ID

But I'm 20 miles north of New meadows, ID and 15 miles south of Riggins, ID.



My Back yard... This is one armpit I will never leave... laugh


That same road in the winter time... (Opps buried the sled...)

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