F700 with 12V 5.9L - is this a good truck & a good deal? - Diesel Truck Forum - TheDieselGarage.com
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:39 AM Thread Starter
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F700 with 12V 5.9L - is this a good truck & a good deal?

I planned to upgrade from my current F350 crew cab dually at some point, wanting something that could haul my 2800 lb camper in the bed, while also towing my 33' tag trailer with 2 race cars (roughly 15000 lbs total trailer weight worst case). I figured on doing this in a few years when I could afford it, probably getting an F550 pickup. I came across the following ad this weekend, and I was wondering if it sounds like a good deal. The truck looks clean enough in pictures (it has a regular pickup bed, looks like the cab & bed are the same as my F350). The owner said the one drawback was the lack of an overdrive tranny, as it turns 2200 RPM at around 70 mph (and consequently only gets 10 mpg running 70 mph). Any thoughts? Anything specific I should look at on this truck?

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It has only 137k miles on it, cummins industrial engine 210 HP ENGINE CODE SN(44880902) ... B5.9,ATA,210HP 2500 RPM 520 FT LBS 50 STATE CLUTCH SPICER 14" 2 PLATE not even broke in good yet ... and a EATON #FS 5106, 6 speed SN(ET86216019) HYDROLIC BRAKES ON TRUCK WITH AIR EMERGENCY BRAKE, air over electric trailer brakes. GVWR 24,500 No CDL required !
45k mini fifth wheel hitch and rear mounted 30k reese hitch ... extra fuel tank, tilt front end.
This is an awesome truck! Runs perfect!
I have only seen one other factory truck like this ... it was a 93 with 350k miles on it ... for sale for 20k ...!
Dont pay too much, buy this truck. I will sell for $12,000 cash

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Old 03-04-2008, 01:14 AM
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Heck with all the money you save, you could buy a brownie or put a 6+1 O/D tranny in it. Might cost you 3 grand.....

Those were pretty tough trucks, albeit kind of plain & crude (no power windows, comfy seats, etc.) I used to have an F-700 and the truck itself was tough. Check the brakes thoroughly, they're super expensive to replace.
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The engines are not the most powerful or fastest on the road, but I bet some of the Cummins guru's could help you with that. And Duke is right about creature comfort, but this truck being a fifth wheel hauler it might be a little nicer.

We had a F800 in our fleet with the same setup, and it was a very reliable truck. Had 450K on it before we sold it and it still had original injectors in it!

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nothing wrong with the truck, it should serve your needs well. i feel however in the long run you will be wanting more power. now the bad news! in my opinion the price is too high, you could find a bit newer low pro international with a 6+1 tranny and a real engine[dt466] for that kind of coin. if a lowpro dosent suit you, move up to a 4900 series. either way, you would not want for another truck my friend. get what you will be happy with, not something you will have to keep modding to get where you want to be.
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sounds like a good deal

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Thanks for all of the input! My main thing is that it needs to have a crew cab and pickup bed on it, so I can essentially replace my current F350's uses (kid & camper hauling, etc).

A few more general questions:
Are trucks like this (basically Class 6 pickups) fairly common on the used market?

How much does one of these typically weigh?

What kind of mileage (loaded & unloaded) would one of these typically get (assuming proper gearing/overdrive)?

Can you get limited slip rearends for something this size? I have a sloped backyard that I have to navigate with my camper & trailers.

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Check the brakes thoroughly, they're super expensive to replace.
What part of the brakes gets expensive? I figured if I get serious about buying it I would check the lining thickness, but is there more I should check?

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one of the most expensive parts brake wise, is the electric motor on the brake system. the booster itself is rather expensive also. weight vary's, depending on how equipped. that particular truck, around 10,000 ish. limited slips/locker's are available for some two ton rear's. do alot of searching for your next truck, dont just settle. i have seen trucks like the one mentioned for as little as 5 grand, no kidding. unless you have a urgent need, i would definitly shop around for a better deal. 4dr international are way more common than other model's, but finding one on the cheap, may be more of a challenge, because of the 4dr option.
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I would suggest IH over Ford, too. Cheaper to run & maintain.
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Where are the typical places you see good deals on these type of trucks advertised?

I'm not in a huge hurry for one, so I can take my time and wait for the best deal. I'll probably throw airbags on my existing F350, and add brakes to the 3rd axle of my trailer, as ways to get along until I buy a bigger truck (and I won't have both race cars done this year, so the load will be much lighter).

I looked on truck trader online, and noticed a fair number of later model F550 chassis-cabs with utility boxes. I vaguely remember hearing something about the F550 chassis cabs a few years ago, that they don't readily accept a pickup body (I thought it had something to do with the frame width &/or mounts). Is that true? One thing I liked about the Ford line (versus IH) is that the interior parts are shared with the pickup series, which makes it easier to get aftermarket stuff (like gauge pods, etc). Has that been a drawback with the IH trucks?

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32' enclosed tag trailer with 2 drag cars (73 Vega Super-Gas & 74 Vega ET Super-Pro)
1992 GMC Typhoon, 1973 Chevy Blazer with Pontiac 400, 1973 Trans-Am 455
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