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I think it is still too early to tell what the outcome of the 6.7L will be, There is a lot more little systems in that motor, Like 2 cooling systems. The 6.0 was great out of the gate but time and poor design ate that motor up. So far the 6.7 seems to be pretty solid. You have your pros and cons as new technology gets put into these motors, but it will be 4 years or so till ford really proves reliability for a good motor. The pros and cons are there for ALL new motors any manufacturer. (My opinion only)
 

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The general rule of thumb has always been not to buy first year model anything until the auto manufacturer has had a chance to rectify the boo boo's. After all the problems associated with the Navistar drive chain it seems that FOMOCO went to extremes in an effort to maintain market share. You better believe that heads are going to roll if the Ford orginization looses it's number one spot after a gazillion years on top. Overall this engine seems to be running like a champ and with the exception of the few comments I have read about the new audibles we are not tuned into hearing it seems they came up with a pretty solid drive chain. What concerns me a little is that there is a plutherer of new technologies and high tech electronics at work on this engine. Just take a look in the engine compartment and you get an immediate feel for the plumming and electrical nightmare. No doubt the 6.7 is not a driveway maintinance model. It will be interesting to see how this baby handles the test of time.
 

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not to bash what you said, at least you backed up your statement..... but if everybody thought that way of not to buy first year model.... how would we ever come up with the fixes and such to make the next year better..??

6.7 has more power, more options, rides smoother, tows better, better mpg, and the list goes on.....
 

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I have 93k on mine in 9 months, flawless performance and 50% of that milage is towing. The engine itself is a beast, even when i pull heavier trailers, say 11k range this engine does not even blink. And most importantly, i have had zero problems.

On very rare occasions the trans will shift a bit wierd, but this is very rare.
 

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I have 93k on mine in 9 months, flawless performance and 50% of that milage is towing. The engine itself is a beast, even when i pull heavier trailers, say 11k range this engine does not even blink. And most importantly, i have had zero problems.

On very rare occasions the trans will shift a bit wierd, but this is very rare.
Holy Crap...someone that rides around more than Darin:roflol:
 

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I have 93k on mine in 9 months, flawless performance and 50% of that milage is towing. The engine itself is a beast, even when i pull heavier trailers, say 11k range this engine does not even blink. And most importantly, i have had zero problems.

On very rare occasions the trans will shift a bit wierd, but this is very rare.


Ill back this up with 88k in almost 14 mos on the 250.. really liking these new Fords.
 

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Are all of you hotshot haulers??? lol
 

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Are all of you hotshot haulers??? lol
yes...and now I have 103k on the 250 and 37k on the 350..that one is my personal truck..only I drive that one..best trucks Ive ever owned..JEFF
 

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The one problem that I hear about is the primary fuel filter does not work and is letting water threw. some have said Ford is saying it could be a biofuel problem anyways the complete High Pressure fuel system has to be replaced. Some of these are very low mileage units.
The pump the lines and the injectors. It has been quoted as a $8,500 to a $12,500 fix. some say up to 6 weeks and Ford does not cover it. Ford Enthusiasts site has atrticles that covers it.
I have a couple of friends that have them and love them except the exhaust brake does not work as well as the Duramax or the Cummins. The steering feels very light when going down hill with a load, is anouther complaint. Our local mountain roads go from 11 to 18% grades.
 

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The one problem that I hear about is the primary fuel filter does not work and is letting water threw. some have said Ford is saying it could be a biofuel problem anyways the complete High Pressure fuel system has to be replaced. Some of these are very low mileage units.
The pump the lines and the injectors. It has been quoted as a $8,500 to a $12,500 fix. some say up to 6 weeks and Ford does not cover it. Ford Enthusiasts site has atrticles that covers it.
I have a couple of friends that have them and love them except the exhaust brake does not work as well as the Duramax or the Cummins. The steering feels very light when going down hill with a load, is anouther complaint. Our local mountain roads go from 11 to 18% grades.
I have not had a problem with either 11 Ford..but do have an over the top maint. program with all of our Trucks...and that includes the 11 Duramax and 12 Cummins HO Dually. I still have a 6.0 and 6.4 left in our fleet with over 300k. Maint is the key, along with one of the best master techs in the industry. BTW the 11 F250 has logged 103k and my personal 350 has 38k.

There will always be a give and take when comparing models. I will agree that the Ford has the weakest exhaust brake, but it does work if used correctly..tapping the brake..just not as good as the other two. The Cummins EB makes the most amount of noise, and you'd swear it is better than the other two, but the Duramax slows the load down just slightly better than the Dodge. As to the light steering, I dont feel it. Some of that could be what you are towing, or how the trailer is set up. I still feel the Fords have the best over all tow rig..better control in towing the loads even though GM's claim to have a stiffer frame. The interiors are also the best..better materials, stitching, and just the most comfortable seats especially when I have to tow 13 plus hours a day. The GM interior comfort and over quality is lacking, as well as looks out dated.. Our vehicle hauler..Cummins Ho is our newest addition. Beautiful truck, and to me looks the best. The interior of our LongHorn looks awesome..but the seats are somewhat flat and bottom out, dont have the cushion of the Fords...overall Dodge has really done a nice job, major improvements.
 

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The light steering was when they had the Camper on the truck it is a huge set up, with a generator, going down hill, he took a ford tech up the mountain and had him drive it down and they spent a couple of hours looking over the front end, so he must have felt it was not like it should be. They never admitted anything and never changed anything either.
 

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you are right as to predict anything about a new one always remain tricky and you can't guess by going through its primitive deliveries ..under similar scenario it's better to wait and watch to see it performing and it'll provide you handy clues in reaching to an efficient decision..
 

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this is the most confusing differentiation to me as well as in some sort the 6.7 is better than 6.0 or 6.4 and for the rest the previous versions are superior than its successor
That is a very low bar to start from, they both are the worst engines in the modern era, and if anyone else had two engines that are such a failure after each other they would be complained about continually. What about having to remove the cab to work on it, having different intake piping than the rest of the world. I am amazed that Ford sells anything. Not being able to make a fuel filter setup that works.
They continually lie about what they can tow and the HP and Torque of their trucks proven when they have to prove it on a little hill.
Please keep buying FORD a million mechanics depend on it.
I would buy a GM or a Dodge, if I wanted a new truck, Personally when I am driving the truck I do not care about the stitching or the dash looking pretty, I would prefer the brakes work and it will pull the load.
Just a thought, now I have to work on a Motor home.
 

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My 11' is nearing the 50k mile mark, with zero issues.. A whole lot of those miles are heavy towing, well over the mfgwr's.. My bother has 2 towing services, so i get to see a lot of what goes on in at the dealerships.. Havent seen anything that worries me about the new fords other then the early build 450/550 engines..
 
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