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i have a 98 lt 9513 ford dump truck with a 3306
can it be turned up any????? if so how
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i have a 98 lt 9513 ford dump truck with a 3306
can it be turned up any????? if so how
Remove the two 1/4" screws from the "fish-eye" cover directly in the center of the bottom of the governor. Screw both side by side screws out three turns. Re-install cover.

Remove AF/C rear cover after removing line. Screw in three turns and lock it. Re-install cover.

Off ya go with 40 more HP!! :happymugs
Remove the two 1/4" screws from the "fish-eye" cover directly in the center of the bottom of the governor. Screw both side by side screws out three turns. Re-install cover.

Remove AF/C rear cover after removing line. Screw in three turns and lock it. Re-install cover.

Off ya go with 40 more HP!! :happymugs
is this a safe set up?????????
40hp isn't much to worry about. Just enuf to make it feel better.
Remove the two 1/4" screws from the "fish-eye" cover directly in the center of the bottom of the governor. Screw both side by side screws out three turns. Re-install cover.

Remove AF/C rear cover after removing line. Screw in three turns and lock it. Re-install cover.

Off ya go with 40 more HP!! :happymugs
thanks for the info, but what is the af/c
thanks for the info, but what is the af/c
Air fuel ratio control. The long skinny thing bout 3 inchs around sticking out of the back of the pump towrds the inside top. Has a #4 steel line to it. Take that cover off where the line goes in and there is the screw. And yes dude, your motor is perfectly safe this way and will last you about 75 to 100K longer than the carbon state it is currently in. We're not gonna hurt your motor man, and this is a rather small and simple step as to what you could really do with that thing :thumbsup
Remove the two 1/4" screws from the "fish-eye" cover directly in the center of the bottom of the governor. Screw both side by side screws out three turns. Re-install cover.

Remove AF/C rear cover after removing line. Screw in three turns and lock it. Re-install cover.

Off ya go with 40 more HP!! :happymugs
sorry for being so dumb on this engine.
found the af/c but do not realy know what the fish eye cover looks like
could i get a little more detail how to find it ,,, thanks
i am doing this on the truck would it be facing in the same direction
as the af/c cover
sorry for being so dumb on this engine.
found the af/c but do not realy know what the fish eye cover looks like
could i get a little more detail how to find it ,,, thanks
i am doing this on the truck would it be facing in the same direction
as the af/c cover
i removed one cover that had 2 screws holding it on, the cover had a ring seal on it and there was only 1 screw there inside a circle i did nothing with that
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sorry for being so dumb on this engine.
found the af/c but do not realy know what the fish eye cover looks like
could i get a little more detail how to find it ,,, thanks
i am doing this on the truck would it be facing in the same direction
as the af/c cover
The only dumb question is the one not asked!!! The rack screw cover is in the very bottom of the center rear of the governor. I'll try one more time to get some pics on here. On the first pic, #13 is one of the two bolts holding the cover. On the second, #8 in the top right corner is one of the two rack screws :happymugs

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The only dumb question is the one not asked!!! The rack screw cover is in the very bottom of the center rear of the governor. I'll try one more time to get some pics on here. On the first pic, #13 is one of the two bolts holding the cover. On the second, #8 in the top right corner is one of the two rack screws :happymugs
altite i think i got it the af/c one i back off the lock nut and turned in the screw 3 turns with a screw driver, on the other one i backed off the 3/8 lock
not and backed out both screws 3 turns with an alen wrench
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altite i think i got it the af/c one i back off the lock nut and turned in the screw 3 turns with a screw driver, on the other one i backed off the 3/8 lock
not and backed out both screws 3 turns with an alen wrench
Now just drive it and see how it feels!!
If you use photobucket or similar, you can get full size pix on here. Also gives an extra place to store them.
K. I'll ask my kids to help with that!! :thumbsup
I've read through this a couple of times, checked my manual and looked at the back of the pump and located which covers to remove so I can do the same adjustments to get an extra 40 horses out of my 3306, but before I do it I was wondering how I could tell if the previous owner has already done this or not? How many turns out on the 2 screws behind the fisheye cover will it take till they come completely out and how can I know if they are out the 3 turns already? I'm pretty confident its still stock but thought I should ask before I go in there.:shrugs
I am just taking this right off the site that nevrenufhp put on his post at the top of this page, so here ya' go:

On the back of the pump is a cover/plate that is said to be almost heart shaped(the AFC housing). There are 2 allen head screws behind that plate that have 3/8 (on B&C's pumps, a single 7/16 on the A) locknuts on them. On an 'A' model you can just take the screw out, since it cant flow enough to cause any harm. Carefully loosen the locknuts with a deep socket, then remove ratchet and insert the allen wrench through the socket so you can hold the locknut in one place. Turn both screws EXACTLY the same amount of turns. Usually start by going 1 full turn on both, then run it. Any additional turns afterwards should be no more than half. Don't get greedy, you'll burn it up. You can get well over 500Hp playing with those B model pumps, but don't come back here blaming me if you don't know how to take your foot out of it and let it cool down. With the screws were turned all the way out, and a C model turbo on it, you can get a little over 600Hp. But it gets hot, if not careful.

Here is the "springs method" for the 3406B&C. Much better results than the one mentioned above:


Take the line and 2) 1/4" bolt cover off the air fuel ratio on the very back and top of the gov. Nothing there to be scared of. Grab the plunger stem with plyers and break the 7/16" jam nut loose with box end wrench, Turn screw all the way in until just leaving enough threads to lock down. Not real precision, just set it anywhere tight. Re-assemble... On the very bottom of the rear of the gov. towards the outside (frame side) is another 1" tall 1/4" bolt cover. Remove the bolts, one on top of the other this time, and smack down on the cover with a screwdriver and hammer. The harder the better. It'll leave the gasket perfectly intact for reassembly that way. Again, nothin to screw up so have at it. Facing in from the back stick your pinky in the slotted hole and push in on that thing. Just face the front of the truck, turn palm up and stick it in. Again, and just to clarify, this is all idiot proof and you can't mess anything up on any of this. Ain't rocket science, for real. Easiest motor to jack up, for sure. SSSooooo, you'll feel the rack screw bar with the fuel and torque screws. Just push on whatever you run into in there. The more travel, the more servo movement. All you're doing with your finger is makin sure another bonehead wasn't in the playin. Make sure when you push it all the way in (about 5/16" travel plus change is about 425hp stock, but doesn't really matter how fat it does go) you can feel about .030" or so (just picture a .030" gauge and guess, really) of secondary spring pressure. That is the torque spring on the stop bar. It doesn't have to be exactly anything, just want that little bit of extra pressure for torque rise. I won't explain it all, but your feeling torque spring pressure from the screw making sure someone before didn't turn one screw out from the other (doing it wrong). There are two screws side by side. If there is no pressure there, turn the outer most screw (towards you) in until there is. Do this with a 1/4" drive 3/8" deep socket (12 point is easier) with baby vice grips clamped to the very end as the lever and a sumthin stupid like 7/64" or somethin allen wrench down the center. Just take your allen set and stick it in the end of the screw to find the size (or call your local dealer, ask for truck shop and just ask em what size). Insert socket, break loose counter clockwise with allen wrench in hole, turn screw and lock back down. If your torque pressure feels OK, or you reset it as stated, back out both screws evenly to the tune of about 20hp per turn or so. Wipe off housing and cover and stick back on with original gasket. No glues on anything anywhere here. If the trucks in good shape, go 3 turns or so and run it a round. If your pyro stays below 950, meaning it's timed close enough to stock or advanced properly, turn it out another 3 and call her good. That's it. Have fun. It can be super tweaked with meter timing and gov. removal, but you'll be pretty happy like this unless you run into me on the road somewhere. Want peace of mind and better mileage, take it to someone trustworthy (Cat dealer, and tellem you want an old timer on it) and set a tight overhead ($225 or so) and meter time ($100) to (for your 92) 17.5 degrees at 1000 and start at 1230, plus remove the stop screw and toss it. This won't make sense to you but that's exactly what you tell him. He'll know just what you're saying, believe me. That'll land you between 5.2 and 5.7mpg depending on what you haul, and between 530 and 560 hp. You'll know it all worked when it goes from 20psi boost to 27 the first time (3 turns) and 32+ the next (3 turns). Add an 0R6051 turbo for a couple more pounds and better power ($1000 with your core as an even swap, and don't let them try to tell you there's a core charge. There isn't, for sure). And don't worry, it'll all take it just fine. With more exagurated tuning, she'd pull 800hp just as it sits with no motor mods whatsoever and live to 750,000 miles without a hitch. If you're running 15psi boost right now and the first 3 turns didn't increase the boost, have the dealer replace you air fuel ratio diaphram ($100). Have fun... Thanks again to Tony from Welch Diesel Repair for this article!

But I am sure Tony will comment here to help ya' irregardless of what I put on here, and I would listen to what he says over what I say
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Thanx P. Only thing different is it's a different motor. All is the same, just on the other side of the motor (and timing is a different story). I spose just go by boost, 18/21psi is stock(ish), 24/25 is 40 over, 30+ is well over 300 on the ground. It'll handle whatever you give it, X 3, but the driveline won't. :) (BTW, there's a re-written same article in the Mod section that they say doesn't make you blind reading it. Nevr had to teach me what a paragraph was :) )...
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Can you get another 100hp out of this engine?
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