There will be another diesel in my driveway before fall this year just don't know which one yet, which leads me into my question. Are there any members that own the 6.0 that didn't feel the need to soup it up with programmers and yet still experienced some of the inherented issues that this motor seems to have? I guess what is making me ask this is because of the few mechanics that I have taken the time to talk with about this motor all seemed to come to the same conclusion that many of the problems that the 6.0's that they had to work on was because of the chips and programs that had been installed. I'm not interested in hearing from the "chip" guy so much as I have no desire to add HP or torque, this motor has plenty for what I'm pulling. Thank you.