Thats the infamous "Overheat video". I'm not exactly sure what the outcome of TxC's suit against GM was, even with that video.
TxChristopher said:Not exactly, GM to this day still denies there is a problem with LLY's overheating. Even though they have PI's and TSB's and have bought back countless trucks and paid cash hush money to who knows how many owners, they deny the problem exists.
At the hearing they claimed my truck was the first LLY Duramax that they had EVER heard of that overheated. It pissed me off, but then we just whipped out all the GM documents that discussed overheating and possible fixes for it. Every last document of course was dated well before I brought my truck in for repair, and my attorney did a great job of explaining and getting their engineer to explain that it is a long process of many customer complaints, testing and feedback that causes repair documents to be generated to the dealers. They don't just all of a sudden issue TSB's, they first have lots of complaints and they look at it and then send out what the think the fix is in the TSB to all the service departments.
To be honest, they made themselve look stupid trying to take that tack of there not being a problem, the judge even was incredulous :shrug: at that since they had so many internal documents talking about it.
We expected them to deny the overheating issue in the LLY trucks, that has been the stand they have taken for over two years now. Admitting it would put them on the hook to fix all the LLY trucks, they don't want to do that, so they take on each person case by case.
Why would this matter? Previous towing cycles could have started the problem. Whether or not someone was towing when an O/H incident happened, the big picture is that it DID happen. From all that has been described for the past couple years, just towing a simple TT could make this happen in certain trucks. Thats the point.killerbee said:How much weight were you pulling when this happened? opcorn:
killerbee said:Yes, but the long answer would be more than a bit off topic. The culpable differences between the 2 models are found in the forced induction mechanism.
Well, that goes back to the bean-counters. Say it costs $5K in shop time and parts to fix a few hundred thousand vehicles (LLY in 04-05's)...then its in GMs best interests to just whether the occasional person with gumption to sue them. Cheaper that way.hhrecovery said:WOW... Congrats to you TX for taking this as far as you did and winning. I can't say that I blame you one bit.
I have to agree w/ everyone else though and say that it is crazy that GM isn't ponying up and fixing the issue on everyone truck. If people can figure out the problem and find a way to solve it looks like they would pony up and do a recall on all the trucks and fix them :shrug:
Oh yeah, we all would...definitely.killerbee said:I would think everyone would like to know how to avoid blowing a duramax head gasket, I know I would.
10,000 lbs, 15,000lbs...?
Chris talks about it in his posts as the thread goes on. Another member posted this on the first page:blackcloudCTD95 said:did he get any where with that law suit? i do give that truck credit.. running over 250* for 12 mins thats crazy..
Ramblinrodney said:I haven't watched the video in a while but I think he was awarded $36,000 and keep his truck. I think that might of been his second motor. GM replaced his first one. It was funny reading all the posts on this and prove to GM that all LLY's will over heat given the right conditions. Thanks TxC and that old Dodge.
While everyone is welcome here at the Garage, and we encourage a varied discussion on all topics, we just had to remove a post because it added absolutely nothing to this video discussion.4cstr said:The little jabs and nit-picking can stop at any time. I would really like to keep the useful information flowing here. If I ever do get another truck...its information like this that is incredibly useful.
No. Only "fix" that works so far is periodically removing the shaft and lubing it. Now that I think about it, thats another thing on my "to do" list for the truck.mckey73 said:Pardon my ignorance, but will they fix the steering shaft issue? With different parts, or just new ones?