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I found a good deal on the juice with attitude, so I picked it up. I haven't had the chance to get air intake and exhaust yet (ordering this week) My question is......will this thing settle down after installing exhaust and intake? After I put it on went to road test, EGT and boost kept alarming and defuling, had great power in different levels but as soon as the alarms started the defueling was really making me upset. Anyone with any comments or suggestion fire away. By the way I am not trying to go all out, these 3 mods are probably all I am looking to do.

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03 F250 6.0L Automatic
 

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Forget about the exhaust, and intake...
You better save up for a new tranny.
(Ask yourself why the last guy is selling it...if it's from a friend...he's/she's not a friend)
Not too many people have had luck with the Edge/Attitude combe for '03's and '04's.
READ THIS: "IT WILL KILL YOUR TRANNY!":pointlaugh
 

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either sell it and buy an SCT or keep it and never go over 3 on the power.
 

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Are you using the edge, or edge platinum? I've had the platinum for about 10k miles, happy to report no problems; transmission or otherwise. If you're using the platinum, you'll be ok. If it's the "old" edge, then your tranny may be in danger.
 

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It amazes me that Edge is a sponsor or supported vendor (what ever it means to be on the front page) or is even listed on this site given the amount of people who bash it here.
I am not suggesting that the Juice over the Juice Platinum did not have its issues either BTW. I have had my Platinum with Attitude monitor for 3-4 months now and I really think it works great. I drive my truck daily, tow a camper, and take road trips in it throughout Colorado across high mountain passes. I have all the alerts set and they have protected me several times (EGT overboost) when I am not paying attention, and I regularly switch between fuel mileage mode and the different levels (on the fly) when I feel like just getting on it a little. I agree the transmission shifting is not perfect but I have been slowly adjusting the amount of defueling between shifts down (less defueling between shifts is harder on the tranny) until I am comfortable with what my tranny can handle. I think this is a good way to go about it as every transmission has its limits based on condition, maintenance and power level. I also regularly use the turbo timer to shut my truck off at a preset EGT and have it adjusted to show my real speed with my 35 inch tires. I have the Attitude mounted on top of the dash and find myself using the EGT/MPH/Boost/engine oil temp guage more than my factory gauges.

I had a hot program on my 7.3 with exhaust gauges intake and a host of other modifications and I think the abuse I gave my truck was excessive and in the end I don’t think my truck lasted as well as it could have. Keep in mind that is not any one of the vendors fault just that I had a hot truck with no safety mechanisms that I loved to pound on. In hindsight a $50k truck may not be the best application for that unspent energy. I made a choice on the new truck to modify it like a Banks package only a little hotter yet have most if not all the same safety mechanisms to have my motor/tranny see long term use.

If you read the forums there are SCTs that have ruined transmissions but they do not garner the notoriety Edge does. In fact there are several posts where people even ask if prior to the SCT someone ran an Edge because the SCT simply could never ruin a tranny . I am certainly not trying to start a brand war or bash SCT, and even if I was, I am sure several people would never believe an SCT can do anything badly but spend some time and do some research. I did personally come close to going with the SCT, and I think if you are looking for “all out” performance go SCT. If you want a tuner with gauges that you can have some percentage of the performance with shift between power levels on the fly, and have it protect the truck from you and occasionally run hard Edge makes a good product. Also be aware if you buy the Edge set the power level to the max with 0 defuel and none of the protections on so that you can show your neighbors what a cool burnout you can do, you will probably have problems with the Edge.

I also think you see more people on all sites bashing products more than giving a good reviews. The frustration of a product not working up to expectations is much more motivational for posting than a product that is working good. I have started to post a thread like this several times only to pull back because I know the SCT guys will come out of the woodwork to bash Edge and say why SCT is superior for any application out there. I am not going to get in a thread war here, I am simply giving my 2 cents worth of opinion which is as we all know just like an A-hole.
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I had a stock SCT on my 05" hated it, it was all smoke no glory, shifted horrible, only ran from about 30 to 60, fuel mileage was horrible, tow tune gave no extra power, wouldnt correct tire size-sure you could put it in but it was still off. Edge Ez would smoke my SCT from about 70mph on

I currently have ran edge ez, dr. performance predator, SCT, Triple Dog, currently am trying TS 5x-like it ok, runs smooth shifts great-smoke alot from 100hp on, more than my SCT. the Triple Dog was the one that ran the best all through the powerband, but shifting isnt great, never had crazy larry, my buddy does and it will roast the tires if you nail it at 30 or 40mph, 4dr 4x4 longbed with 35's
 

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Edge makes good power by my SOTP when I had it. I was really happy with the power. I did feel a little more power with my SCT though. I think the Edge with a tranny file would be great. We'll wait to see how the new Edge Platinum works out.
 

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I ran edge with attitude for 37k miles. Never shifted correctly over 3/3 so thats were I left it. All was well. Drove well made good power and BINGO tranny said bye bye.
 

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I was having an issue with shifting about a week ago until I went into the trasmission shift section. I had it on firm shifts but I think it only shifted under load or hp. I had to go into the selct when to shift area and select always firm and that fixed it. Shifts real hard in every gear. Other than that issue which is gone now, I love my Edge Platinum. It's been on my truck for 6 months I guess. I usually drive it on level 5 though. :) I wish I had more smoke...I might do the HOT unlock code. (Anyone have the code?)
I do agree about the bashing though, You may or may not have tranny issues but it probably depends more on how you drive versus what tuner you have. If you beat on your truck...you'll have a beat up truck. Try it...if you want, buy a SCT Xcal1 for $100-$150 and get a couple of tranny tunes.
 

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I was having an issue with shifting about a week ago until I went into the trasmission shift section. I had it on firm shifts but I think it only shifted under load or hp. I had to go into the selct when to shift area and select always firm and that fixed it. Shifts real hard in every gear. Other than that issue which is gone now, I love my Edge Platinum. It's been on my truck for 6 months I guess. I usually drive it on level 5 though. :) I wish I had more smoke...I might do the HOT unlock code. (Anyone have the code?)
I do agree about the bashing though, You may or may not have tranny issues but it probably depends more on how you drive versus what tuner you have. If you beat on your truck...you'll have a beat up truck. Try it...if you want, buy a SCT Xcal1 for $100-$150 and get a couple of tranny tunes.
what will the tranny tunes from the SCT give me over the standard Edge PwJ tune?
 

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I've got 50K on the edge and 20K with the evo trans tunes. No trouble so far and I tow some serious trailers on level 2.
 
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